River Avon - Avon Tyrell to Christchurch Harbour

Hampshire Avon drainage and eastwards, with the Nene as the northern limit
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River Avon - Avon Tyrell to Christchurch Harbour

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Post by harrywatson » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:15 pm

Hi, sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but i am new, so please tell me if something im doing is wrong!!

Firstly the paddle took nearer 4 hours, although we did have 2 people who were new to white water although the other 2 were very expeienced.

5 mins in there is a big tree that is across the river, stick to river left and you will have to wrestle your way through it. we found a blue pair of splits just past that so others must have had the same problem.

You must be warery as 10 mins after the get in there is a log across the whole river and i reccomend that when you see it you immediately stop and look at it from a distance first the only way to pass it is to stay on river left and paddle fast over it.

Although the guide says you have alot of problems with fishermen we didnt encounter anyone let alone fishermen until the last 30 mins of the trip. You HAVE to get out of your boat nearer the end as there is a weir that goes into a gated fishing area and the other half of the river has a net across for the sewage works. You will need to walk 5 mins downstream to just beyond the sewage works where you can then get in. There is a manor house downstream which we were told has lots of angry fishermen in so watch out!


Although a lovely paddle, now on to the Stour and i am definately going to try the upper Avon from Ringwood to the get it.

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Re: RIVER AVON (Avon Tyrell to Christchurch Harbour)

Post by odrew » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:57 pm

Recently on holiday just outside Christchurch. Paddled the Avon from Avon Causeway to Mudeford Quay with my daughter and her boyfriend in open boats. Beautiful paddle, clear water with lots of wildlife. Low water levels. Has one discussion with an angry fisherman just after the water extraction & treatment plant. I insisted we were not trespassing 'on' the river and agreed that he should call the bailiff if he felt that strongly about it. We did not let it spoil an enjoyable paddle and I hope it did not spoil the fisherman's day.
Paddled the Stour two days later solo from just below A31 Canford School from a footpath off Ham Lane to the public slipway in Christchurch. Fantastic days paddle otters, black swan, egrets, fish the size of salmon kettles and more king fishers than I've ever seen in a day. Had to do a bit of willow pruning at one point and choose routs through reed beds carefully. All added to the wilderness feel of the trip. Spent time finding a portage around the waterworks by the A348 bridge. Spoke to bailiff upstream of the A338 dual carriageway bridge. He agreed he could only complain if I had accessed the river on private land. However there was a floating barrier over the river to stop the spread of river weed. Bit of a pain getting around the end stake without getting out onto private land within site of bailiff.
Conclusion - don't let the niggles of fishermen put you off paddling these rivers. Noticed the Stour was on the EA's list of 10 most improved rivers this year.

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Post by daisy45 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:49 pm

Hi,

I am new to these boards.

I recently read an old article about the River Avon. The 2 ladies who were canoeing the river to the sea said that they had stopped for the night at the Swan in Pulborough. It had painted panels by Constable and other notable people which had been done in return for their food and lodgings.

Does anyone know if that particular pub still exists?

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Post by ChrisS » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:47 pm

The Swan is still there but Pulborough is actually on the River Arun in West Sussex, not the Dorset Avon. The Arun is a great pub paddle and, being entirely tidal, is not plagued by access issues like the Avon.

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Post by daisy45 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:48 pm

Thank you for your reply. I should have realised by the spelling, that the two rivers were not the same. I think a visit to Pulborough would be very interesting.

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Re: RIVER AVON (Avon Tyrell to Christchurch Harbour)

Post by ijustwanttopaddle » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:52 pm

Have been around The Christchurch Loop a couple of times recently and having read this decided to poke my nose upstream a little. No issues on the Loop itself. Where you can turn off the Loop towards the bypass bridge there are two very large new-looking red signs saying (something like) "Private Fishery no boats or canoes". There is nothing on these signs to indicate by whose authority they are put there or to what law they might relate. Then just before the bridge another similar red sign and a more legitimate looking one from Sembcorp that says nothing about any restriction on access. Passing under the bridge no further signs about boating, nor any about not fishing with low overhead power cables (somebody else mentioned these were present a few years ago).

So the first time I paddled up to the stony weir and en route met one angler who politely asked me to keep over to side opposite him, fine.

Second time, today, two anglers were located directly underneath first set of power lines and told me "this is the Royalty Fishery, you're not allowed here". I asked why, when it's tidal water? "That's got nothing to do with it." I said well I think it has. Then one of them changed tack and started talking about it being a "3SI mate, no boats". I said I didnt think that was relevant either and by the way had they seen the power cables above them. After that it all tailed off and I paddled on up to the stony weir bit again.

Now my interpretation re Sites of Special Scientific Interest is that they do not mean boating is not allowed. What is not allowed is disturbance of the protected wildlife and/or plants. Since it is tidal water comfortably deep enough to float in, canoeing would not cause much if any disturbance. Perhaps trampling over and sitting on the riverbank casting hooks into the water would even cause more disturbance but that's not my expertise.

My point really is that the red signs appear to be there specifically to put people off from indisputably legitimate boating activity. It's definitely tidal at least to the stony weir, so there is a clear right of navigation. Whilst paddling off the Loop up to the weir does not add a huge distance it is permitted so we should encourage everyone to do so.

I did not paddle further than the weir as this does seem to be heavily disputed and patrolled; I did not want the hassle.

Does anyone know different re SSSI regulations or this stretch of the Avon?

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Post by Mark Gawler » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:32 pm

As far as I'm aware you are correct on all counts, the signs have no jurisdiction and should be ignored. There have been a number of instances over recent years of signs being put up to deter paddlers. The only sign that is valid is the Sembcorp sign which refers to the SSSI and place no restrictions on navigation.

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Post by Chas C » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:50 am

I'm in agreement with Mark, when these SSSI signs and issues first arose a few years ago, the BCU were in contact with all parties including the lawyers for the fisheries. The outcome was its not private or protected water, the SSSI has no impact on the water as long as the paddler does not stand or touch the river bed or walk on the bank.

For some reason only known to the government the fishermen are excluded from prosecution for damaging an SSSI so they can walk on the river bed and also the bank, if the kayaker had an appropriate fishing licence then i'd guess they too would not be able to be prosecuted either :-), otherwise stay in the water and don't run aground.

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