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Post by Cameron » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:58 pm

I am looking to buy a deck bag for all of those odds and ends that we should have close to hand and have come up with this

http://www.chillcheater.com/products/sh ... &pid=16365

does anyone have any direct experience with this bag and would you recommend it.

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Post by Wenley » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:15 am

I have the same bag from a Czech manufacturer. The roll closure seal works well. I would say that the elastic cords are a bit too long to secure the bag tightly on a Nordkapp's decklines, but that it is easily fixed.
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Post by Cameron » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:16 am

Thanks Wenley, I think I will give one a go.

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Post by tenboats1 » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:21 am

I have had two of these and they both leaked big time.

Reed exchanged the first one but I kept the second one despite the leaks and downgraded its use to open canoeing and use dry dry bags inside it.

The problem is the see through window. Where it is joined to the nylon fabric it has been heat sealed / welded. This splits.

I used gaffer tape to repair it, but then it split again in another place. The corners were the first to go and are difficult to tape up.

You might also find it on the big side for sea kayaking. When rolling it tends to 'set' the boat to one side. If it sets to your rolling side you get a very easy roll. If it sets to the other side you have had it!

I now use a low profile deck bag that, like the Reed, is not waterproof. The upside is that it cost £15 and never made any claims to be waterproof.

IMO the Reed bag is too big, and too expensive for something that leaks.

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Post by Cameron » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:43 pm

Thanks tenboats

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Post by adrian j pullin » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:19 pm

I don't think I would worry about getting anything waterproof as a deck bag. If you open it at sea, water will get in anyway and if you don't open it at sea, why have a deck bag in the first place?

Mine is not water proof and in fact having one that drains well is more use.
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Post by Cameron » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:00 pm

There is a certain logic to that argument Adrian. Thanks.

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Post by TaysideTom » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:32 pm

I reckon that there probably are occasions for opening a deck bag at sea without getting it soaked. If there are waves breaking over you, then you probably want to keep your hands on your paddle rather than mess around with a deck bag.

But, if you're remotely inventive, you could probably make yourself a decent deck bag (dry or draining, as you prefer) to your own preferred size and shape for well under £10 (50cm of the nylon plus a wee bit of seam sealing tape and a few odds and ends of webbing should be plenty):

http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_p ... p?id=D4-09

http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_p ... php?id=TS1

And there's a huge choice of colours. For example:

http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_p ... p?id=D4-51

That said, my own is the heavily overpriced NorthWater bag. But now this thread has suggested the idea to me, I suspect that I can do a better one.

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Post by SteelRiverRunner » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:05 am

There's an Ebay seller 'scamps75' who specialises in webbing, buckles, clips, bungee cord in all manner of sizes plus end hooks etc... I just bought all the bits to make a paddle leash (in fact about 8 paddle leashes) and had change from £6.50 :oD
I couldn't have BOUGHT a paddle leash for that...

Ironically I went out in the boat today and forgot the bl**dy leash... :bangshead:
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Post by Mikebelluk » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:46 am

Have a look at this waterproof bumbag from backpackinglight.co.uk.

£19.99, looks like it will do the business on and off the boat, a lot cheaper than some of the big paddlegear manufacturers stuff.

www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product331.asp
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Post by Kate D » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:43 pm

I bought a cheap non waterproof bum bag from a market stall. It cost me £1. I fasten it across my deck lines with the waist belt and hey presto I have a small deck bag. When it's knackered I'll just buy another for a quid.

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Post by yellacapella » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:14 am

Top tip Kate. I'm on the lookout for a deck bag, but being a typical Scotsman was a bit put off by the outrageous prices you can expect to pay in a kayak outlet. I mean it is just a bag after all. A cheapo bum bag,,,,why didn't I think of that before!
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Post by ethiaa » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:11 am

There is a middle option - you can get a variety of Chinook deck bags at a reasonable rate shipped from Canada via one or two sources on ebay. Not as cheap as making it yourself or down the market but still, the option is there.
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Post by yellacapella » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:30 pm

Aye Rob,,,like the look of the Chinook Aquawave.
Even with shipping charges it comes in at under £30.
This would be at least twice the price here!!
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Post by waltfos » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:14 pm

Here ia the web site

http://www.chinooktec.com/Chinook_Cat2007_web.pdf ft

You will pay UK via courier as thay will be charged it when it comes into the country. Unless you have a friend sate side who will buy and send it over as a gift or item left/borrowed letter from friend should be in with bag or whatever to save Tax

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Post by Peter M » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:10 pm

yellacapella wrote:Aye Rob,,,like the look of the Chinook Aquawave.
Even with shipping charges it comes in at under £30.
This would be at least twice the price here!!
Rip off Britain, don't you just love it.
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Post by ethiaa » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:39 pm

Peter M wrote:
yellacapella wrote:Aye Rob,,,like the look of the Chinook Aquawave.
Even with shipping charges it comes in at under £30.
This would be at least twice the price here!!
Rip off Britain, don't you just love it.
Don't forget import duty and the dreded VAT
Yes, surprising how many people send things to you as 'Gifts' after you send them money through paypal. Ahem.
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Re: Deck bag^

Post by tannys » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:02 pm

*bump*
I'm looking for a Deck bag (something slightly bigger than a turtle) and the Chinook AquaWave Kayak Deck Bag has come up in my search, At £35 inc postage, is it worth the money?, Up until now I have used those little velcro fastening dry bags attached to the deck with a lanyard which have nearly all split and a square bicycle handlebar bag (not waterproof but was only a pound)
Any other alternatives kicking around that would do the job?

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Post by maryinoxford » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:25 pm

This gadget from Pakboats does double duty as a deck bag/ paddle float:
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Not cheap, though - I bought one for about £65, a year or so ago. Seems to do the job okay, although mine has only had light use.

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Post by MikeB » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:35 pm

Get a North Water peaked bag either from Europe or the States as (annoyingly) they aren't imported to UK these days. A decent alternative is the Seals deck bag.

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Post by tannys » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:22 pm

Thanks for the replies, I quite like the look of the northwater peaked, and bournmouth canoes appear to be selling them according to their website @ £44 inc postage
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Post by MikeB » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:35 pm

tannys wrote:Thanks for the replies, I quite like the look of the northwater peaked, and bournmouth canoes appear to be selling them according to their website @ £44 inc postage
Ah - so it looks like NW kit may be available again! They really are very good deck bags - -

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Post by John N » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:47 pm

Kate D wrote:I bought a cheap non waterproof bum bag from a market stall. It cost me £1. I fasten it across my deck lines with the waist belt and hey presto I have a small deck bag. When it's knackered I'll just buy another for a quid.
Cheaper than that - I use an old 5l BERGHAUS bum bag that was on it's way to a scout jumble sale until I read an earlier similar thread here. If the market stall does not have what you want try GO OUTDOORS or DECATHLON. Dry bags or press seal food bags to keep contents dry.

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Post by wideblueyonder » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:28 pm

Have used both the Northwater Peaked and Northwater Adventure Deck bags extensively. Reviews of both written up:
http://solentseakayaking.co.uk/2008/12/ ... -deck-bag/
http://solentseakayaking.co.uk/2009/04/ ... -deck-bag/

Along with a brief video for the adventure deck bag.
http://solentseakayaking.co.uk/2009/03/ ... -deck-bag/

Use them less now as I paddle a Cetus with the deck hatch, and Ortleib camera bag sits on deck but still great bits of kit to have around.

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Post by GrumpyPumpy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:45 pm

John N wrote:
Kate D wrote:I bought a cheap non waterproof bum bag from a market stall. It cost me £1. I fasten it across my deck lines with the waist belt and hey presto I have a small deck bag. When it's knackered I'll just buy another for a quid.
Cheaper than that - I use an old 5l BERGHAUS bum bag that was on it's way to a scout jumble sale until I read an earlier similar thread here. If the market stall does not have what you want try GO OUTDOORS or DECATHLON. Dry bags or press seal food bags to keep contents dry.
Or.............. you could try vacuum packing your kit to keep it dry!

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Post by Robert Craig » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:41 pm

Used a "proper" peaked deck bag for years, but always got annoyed by hitting it with the paddle.

So changed to a (non-waterproof) bum bag, first round my waist, and now on teh deck lines in front. It's small enough not to get in the way of paddling.

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Post by MikeB » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:46 pm

Robert Craig wrote:Used a "proper" peaked deck bag for years, but always got annoyed by hitting it with the paddle.

So changed to a (non-waterproof) bum bag, first round my waist, and now on teh deck lines in front. It's small enough not to get in the way of paddling.
Yes - my first NW bag eventually wore thro at the top seam from occassional paddle hits. After 8 years, so acceptable in truth. I positioned the new one ever so slightly further forward and maintaining a high angle helps too. One of my pals took the stiffener out but that does leave it somewhat floppy.

You get used to it. The benefits outweigh the minor disadvantage.

The bigger bags are even worse, and with some of them you hit the blasted thing at the front as well as they are too wide.

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Post by alanshunter » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:39 am

I have been looking around for ages for a deck bag to hold my camera etc. when not in use .
I've finally sent off for this one from overboard which seems to offer reasonable value and functionality , fingers crossed .
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http://www.over-board.co.uk/catalog//bw ... 30_62.html
I should have it this weekend so I'll give you my verdict on it when it arrives.
Overboard have a lot of interesting bits and bobs for the water and I haven't seen the website before so it may be new in the U.K.
I had a phone case of theirs a couple of years ago and although it was a little flimsy the design and ease of use was good.

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Post by Mark R » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:25 am

alanshunter wrote:I have been looking around for ages for a deck bag to hold my camera etc. when not in use .
I've finally sent off for this one from overboard which seems to offer reasonable value and functionality , fingers crossed .
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http://www.over-board.co.uk/catalog//bw ... 30_62.html
I should have it this weekend so I'll give you my verdict on it when it arrives.
Overboard have a lot of interesting bits and bobs for the water and I haven't seen the website before so it may be new in the U.K.
I had a phone case of theirs a couple of years ago and although it was a little flimsy the design and ease of use was good.

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I have a 30L version of this - it's enormous, for the back deck really. I suspect yours will also be on the large side, so to speak.
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Post by Flatfoot » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:47 am

I have used this in the past, but only on the rear deck and only for flatwater river touring. I've never tried, or had to, roll with it attatched. Does having a deck bag make it harder to roll? In some respect it must do as theres more water resistance.
I've always worked on the addage that less is more. I tend not to use it too much now. Makes a wonderful dry pack for the motorbike though!

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