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Kayak trolleys

Post by Charlie1549 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:45 pm

Currently doing a gcse project investigating kayak trolleys.
Please could people reply with the type of kayak trolley you used and what you thought was good and n=bad about it.
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Re: Kayak trolleys

Post by MikeB » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:47 pm

KCS - good: rugged and dependable. Bad: nothing.

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Post by Mac50L » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:58 pm

The prototype was build with aluminium tubing out of the scrap bin. The tubing, if not the wheels, would have transported the QEII though it wasn't too heavy.
https://canterburyseakayak.wordpress.com/t-bar-trolley/

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Post by Jim » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:06 pm

Eckla. Is fairly strong and folds well, there is a knack to strapping the boat on in a way that the trolley can't accidentally fold up in use which takes some figuring out and some people never work out, the plastic connector parts can break and getting hold of replacements is difficult and wheels with plain bearings whilst light and easy to maintain are less than ideal.

On the canoe sized Eckla I have successfully used barrow wheels with deep groove ball bearings inplace of the plain wheels it came with, but I never found a small wheel for the sea kayak trolley that could be adapted to use ball bearings, so I would suggest that is one specific area you might want to think hard about - you could probably make an entire project just around the wheels for the trolley given the number of options to consider - modifying an existing wheel (re-bore on lathe or make inserts to carry bearings), machining a wheel from scratch on lathe or mill, moulding a wheel from scratch, selecting bearings and shafts, not to mention a wide range of materials options for all of the above. And don't forget tyres, the inner tubes on the Eckla wheels are rubbish so room to improve there too...

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Post by Chris Bolton » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:41 pm

I have a C-Tug. It's light and strong, and the different parts will fit into various places in the boat, except the wheels take up a lot of space. The wheels have plain bearings, plastic on plastic, and that creates a lot of friction, so can be hard to pull with a fully loaded boat, and if you go too fast with a heavy load you can melt the axle sleeve.

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Post by charleston14 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:53 am

C tug
Light and strong but bulky, uses up a fair bit of space when broken down and put into the hatches.
Hard plastic wheels are rubbish over soft sand but the sandtakz wheels you can buy are pricy.

Plus it’s all more plastic in a world that could do with a lot less of it.

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Post by pathbrae » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:41 pm

KCS - Expedition Trolly https://www.kayakcarriers.co.uk/product ... lled-tyres

For - very light, (3.2Kg with extension fitted, 3.0Kg without) packs into the boat without any problem, solid wheels are pucture proof, tool-free build and take down.
Against - not much. The wheels aren't particularly good on soft sand but are fine on everything else. Wheels are retained by lynch pins which are easy to use but also easy to loose! (however, a couple of spares come with the trolley, which is fine if you have them with you...)

C-Tug

For - Robust, captive strap, SandTrax wheels are good on soft sand. Large contact area for boat hull.Tool-free. Captive wheel locks won't get lost

Against -- It's big and very very heavy! (4.9 Kg with SandTrax wheels - I'm amazed that people have commented that a C-tug is light!!??) I can fit it all into the boat but wouldn't even consider it for a camping trip. Usually, I'll use it to get to the water then leave it in the car.

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WheelEez small kayak trolley. https://www.rosscastors.co.uk/wheeleez- ... -mini.html

For - Very light and compact, soft balloon tyres are excellent on soft sand and smooth gravel and roll reasonably well on hard surfaces, very quick to set up and take down. Fits into boat with a weeks camping kit.
Against - Tyres are very prone to puncture and replacement wheels are almost as expensive as the complete cart. Lynch pins to retain wheels (same issue as KCS)
So much sea - so little time to see it.

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Post by brian_m » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:55 pm

Lomo trolley
Pros : Cheap, robust, copes with rough terrain.
Cons : Too big - can't fit in hatches.

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Post by Mac50L » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:21 am

The talk of weight so I weighed one of our T-bar trolleys. Just under 2 kg. (1.9 kg) It all breaks down for easy stowing. The best part is cost. Simply the cost of wheels and an axle of some sort and a couple of down-pipe T pieces plus a bit if plastic pipe (from a builder's yard?). Disadvantage - you have to make it yourself.

There are a number of similar trolleys if you do some Googling but they are all unnecessarily more complicated. They lock the two sides together using twice as many parts. The key to the T-bar as per the link https://canterburyseakayak.wordpress.com/t-bar-trolley/ is that the 2 parts float to best suit the placement of the kayak. The two straps lock it on to the kayak and there are no complications as to how to fasten it.

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