Mull of Galloway West to East?
Mull of Galloway West to East?
Has anyone paddled the Mull of Galloway from Port Logan to East Tarbet? Just wondering whether there is also a difference in the tidal flow times close inshore for the flood?
Re: Mull of Galloway West to East?
The below is taken from Scottish sea kayaking.co.uk:
Tidal Times Correction (Scottish Sea kayaking 1st Edition):
At the Mull of Galloway: The W going inshore tidal stream starts at about 1 hour and 45 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0130 HW Dover). The E going inshore tidal stream starts at about 4 hours 15 minutes after Liverpool (+0430 Dover).
4.5km SSW of the Mull of Galloway: The W going tidal stream starts at about 5 minutes after HW Liverpool (+0020 HW Dover). The E going tidal stream starts 6 hours before HW Liverpool (-0550 HW Dover).
East going eddy between Port Kemin and Lagvag: Starts an hour after the W going inshore tidal stream about 45 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0030 HW Dover).
West Coast of Mull of Galloway: The N going tidal stream starts at about 2 hours and 50 minutes before HW Greenock (-0135 HW Dover). The S going tidal stream starts at about 3 hours and 10 minutes after HW Greenock (+0425 HW Dover).
Max Rate Sp Off Mull of Galloway 6 knots. Off the main headlands on the west coast 4 knots. East going eddy between Port Kemin and Lagvag not strong except off Carrickcorie (NX 141304), 500m SE of West Tarbet (can paddle against with a bit of effort).
Tidal Times Correction (Scottish Sea kayaking 1st Edition):
At the Mull of Galloway: The W going inshore tidal stream starts at about 1 hour and 45 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0130 HW Dover). The E going inshore tidal stream starts at about 4 hours 15 minutes after Liverpool (+0430 Dover).
4.5km SSW of the Mull of Galloway: The W going tidal stream starts at about 5 minutes after HW Liverpool (+0020 HW Dover). The E going tidal stream starts 6 hours before HW Liverpool (-0550 HW Dover).
East going eddy between Port Kemin and Lagvag: Starts an hour after the W going inshore tidal stream about 45 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0030 HW Dover).
West Coast of Mull of Galloway: The N going tidal stream starts at about 2 hours and 50 minutes before HW Greenock (-0135 HW Dover). The S going tidal stream starts at about 3 hours and 10 minutes after HW Greenock (+0425 HW Dover).
Max Rate Sp Off Mull of Galloway 6 knots. Off the main headlands on the west coast 4 knots. East going eddy between Port Kemin and Lagvag not strong except off Carrickcorie (NX 141304), 500m SE of West Tarbet (can paddle against with a bit of effort).
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Re: Mull of Galloway West to East?
Hi BevO, I have paddled Mull of Galloway multiple times in both directions.
The printed times in Scottish Sea Kayaking 1st edition are wrong.
Here is a description of the various flows and eddies:
HW/LW Drummore is 38 minutes after Liverpool , Portpatrick is 22 minutes after Liverpool , Stranraer is 20 minutes before Greenock
There are significant tide races off the Mull of Galloway, Crammag Head, Mull of Logan, Money Head and Morroch Bay. The Admiralty Pilot describes the Mull of Galloway race as heavy and violent. An underwater ridge extends for 4km NE from Lagvag (NX160307), the Mull’s most easterly point, and creates overfalls especially 2.5km NE of the Mull where it is shallowest. When the SW going race off Lagvag is established it is not possible to paddle much further NE than Lunnock Cave due to the speed of the race below the cliffs and lack of an eddy.
Tidal streams
4.5km SSW of the Mull of Galloway '(tidal diamond on chart) the E going flood starts at 6 hours 0 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0547 HW Dover. The W going ebb starts at 0 hours and 5 minutes after HW Liverpool (+0018 HW Dover). Max spring rate 4.5 knots E going, 3.7 knots west going.
Close to the easternmost point of the Mull of Galloway the NE going flood starts about 4 hours and 15 minutes after HW Liverpool (+0430 HW Dover) and the SW going ebb starts about 1 hour 43 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0130 HW Dover)
Max spring rate 5 knots NE going, 6 knots SW going. These streams are likely to be a continuation of the inshore streams on the west coast of the Rhins of Galloway detailed below.
From Port Kemin (NX123313) to Lunnock Cave (NX159305 near Lagvag) an east going eddy forms very close inshore about 45 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0030 HW Dover) (an hour after the west going inshore stream along the southern coast of the Mull of Galloway starts), This eddy is not strong except off Carrickcorie NX166304 (500m SE of West Tarbet) where you may break sweat for about 100m when paddling west then north west.
During the NE going flood off the the easternmost point of the Mull of Galloway, a west going eddy forms along the north coast of the Mull.
Inshore on the west coast of the Rhins of Galloway, between the Mull and Corsewall Point, the S going flood starts at 3 hours and 10 minutes after HW Greenock (+0425 HW Dover) and the N going ebb starts at 2 hours and 50 minutes before HW Greenock (-0135 HW Dover). Max spring rates 4 knots except off Black Head 5 knots.
Have fun it is a great trip :)
Douglas
The printed times in Scottish Sea Kayaking 1st edition are wrong.
Here is a description of the various flows and eddies:
HW/LW Drummore is 38 minutes after Liverpool , Portpatrick is 22 minutes after Liverpool , Stranraer is 20 minutes before Greenock
There are significant tide races off the Mull of Galloway, Crammag Head, Mull of Logan, Money Head and Morroch Bay. The Admiralty Pilot describes the Mull of Galloway race as heavy and violent. An underwater ridge extends for 4km NE from Lagvag (NX160307), the Mull’s most easterly point, and creates overfalls especially 2.5km NE of the Mull where it is shallowest. When the SW going race off Lagvag is established it is not possible to paddle much further NE than Lunnock Cave due to the speed of the race below the cliffs and lack of an eddy.
Tidal streams
4.5km SSW of the Mull of Galloway '(tidal diamond on chart) the E going flood starts at 6 hours 0 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0547 HW Dover. The W going ebb starts at 0 hours and 5 minutes after HW Liverpool (+0018 HW Dover). Max spring rate 4.5 knots E going, 3.7 knots west going.
Close to the easternmost point of the Mull of Galloway the NE going flood starts about 4 hours and 15 minutes after HW Liverpool (+0430 HW Dover) and the SW going ebb starts about 1 hour 43 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0130 HW Dover)
Max spring rate 5 knots NE going, 6 knots SW going. These streams are likely to be a continuation of the inshore streams on the west coast of the Rhins of Galloway detailed below.
From Port Kemin (NX123313) to Lunnock Cave (NX159305 near Lagvag) an east going eddy forms very close inshore about 45 minutes before HW Liverpool (-0030 HW Dover) (an hour after the west going inshore stream along the southern coast of the Mull of Galloway starts), This eddy is not strong except off Carrickcorie NX166304 (500m SE of West Tarbet) where you may break sweat for about 100m when paddling west then north west.
During the NE going flood off the the easternmost point of the Mull of Galloway, a west going eddy forms along the north coast of the Mull.
Inshore on the west coast of the Rhins of Galloway, between the Mull and Corsewall Point, the S going flood starts at 3 hours and 10 minutes after HW Greenock (+0425 HW Dover) and the N going ebb starts at 2 hours and 50 minutes before HW Greenock (-0135 HW Dover). Max spring rates 4 knots except off Black Head 5 knots.
Have fun it is a great trip :)
Douglas