Can't choose

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Can't choose

Post by Troy0474 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:08 pm

Hey I'm T living in Belgium and recently started paddling.
I bought a Perception essence 17 because it fitted perfect. As far as I know/understand what a good fit is.

Anyhow I have enough room for my feet en the thighbraces are where I want them.

Now I'm looking for another kayak. The Perception goes to a friend and I went to a shop to try the valley etain 17.7 but the deck was to low for my feet. I think the perception seat and thigh braces are more comfy, better placed.

Don't like the venture jura, p&h scorpio...far to big.

Its difficult to find/try kayaks like cetus HV or nigel dennis... and wich one has a similar perception cockpit/sizes? Price is not realy an issue

Looking forward to the advices

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Chris Bolton » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:49 pm

Please can you tell us your height, leg length and foot size? Then somebody who is a similar size might be able to say which boats fit them.

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Troy0474 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:16 pm

I'm 1.85, 95 kg, size 47 in the neoprene boothies.
I did not heve problems wirh the length...more the heighr for my feet.

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Re: Can't choose

Post by SJD » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:55 pm

Down toward the bottom of the first page there is a thread about sea kayak for big guys. If you have not seen it, you may find a few ideas there. It may be helpful if you post which brands of kayaks are available in your area. I have an older Valley Nordkapp from 2010 that has extra room for my size 45 feet. I also have a Tiderace Xtra that has a lot of extra foot room.

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Jim » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:17 am

Are you trying to sit with your feet dead upright in the boat? I have always found it better to have my toes a few cm forward of my heels so the balls of my feet can push on the footrest and I have range to tilt my foot forwards and back from that position (the footrest will normally stop it going forward), I probably also have my heels clsoer tothe centreline and toes closer to the side. I have never come accross a sea kayak I couldn't get comfortable in with size 46 feet (although in the case of a friends boat I borrowed that had a solid bulkhead for a footrest that was simply good luck that it fitted me!) so I am wondering if you are sittign with your feet in a strange position that might be causing you problems?

Obviously for long distance touring you needto be completely comfortable in the boat, and you may not find the position I describe feels comfortable of secure so always go with your own instinct.

Unfortunately I don't know the Perception range well enough to recommend anything similar.

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Chris Bolton » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:26 am

I'm 1.85, 95 kg, size 47 in the neoprene boothies.
I am 1.82, 75kg, size 44 and paddle a Rockpool GT. I am sure there is another 3cm of length, and there is no problem when I have 70kg of camping equipment and water. The footrest in the GT is inclined so that my toes are further forward, which reduces the height. When I have a chance I will check how much space there is above my feet, but I wear quite big neoprene boots and have no problem. The thigh grips are in a good position for me.
I did not heve problems wirh the length...more the heighr for my feet.
I asked that mostly because leg length affects how people find the thigh grips to be positioned.

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Troy0474 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:32 pm

This week I can sit (not padlle) in a cetus HV, explorer HV and a zegul arrow play.

Don't know much about the zegul but we'l see.

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Troy0474 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:35 pm

Today tried out explorer, feels very uncomfie... will probably be a much better boat then the Perception that I own, but when it comes to fits me like a glove the perception is the winner.
Hopefully the cetus saturday

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Re: Can't choose

Post by SJD » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:11 pm

Someone above mentioned the Rockpool GT. Rockpool makes excellent kayaks and I see they have a dealer in Belgium. If the Cetus does not work Rockpool may be worth a look.

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Troy0474 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:38 pm

Thanks, dealer in Belgium is selling them but you can only order... no trying 🙄🙄

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Re: Can't choose

Post by SJD » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:42 pm

That is unfortunate, and possibly a bit odd, they do not have any demo Rockpools available

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Re: Can't choose

Post by John Goldhurst » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:40 am

thats too bad. I second that the Rockpool GT would be worth a look. Really great boat!

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Ceegee » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:45 am

Nanuk in Germany have (had?) demo Rockpool boats, but probably as cheap and easy to travel to Anglesey. Or contact Mike Webb at Rockpoom for suggestions. Immensely helpful guy. Or why not take your time, attend a few symposia, maybe do a bit of training and use the opportunity to either demo some boats, or try by borrowing other paddlers' ones. At any symposia you are likely to encounter 20+ different boat models, and most people are happy to let you try their boat for half an hour in my experience. I certainly would be. Plus there are usually rental options
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Re: Can't choose

Post by Ceegee » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:49 am

Oh, and if you want a high fore deck for feet, maybe consider the Rockpool Taran family, or similar offers from Tiderace such as the Pace
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Re: Can't choose

Post by mcgruff » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:33 pm

And with a similar hull design aim to the Taran (but very different cockpit..) there's the Epic V6.

On this boat, low-flying aircraft are the only limiting factor for foot size ;)

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Chris Bolton » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:33 am

Troy, I have checked the foot space in my Rockpool GT. My kayaking boots are 29cm along the sole and, sitting with my heels together and my feet in a V shape, there is about 2cm of extra space. So 31cm would be the biggest that would fit.

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Re: Can't choose

Post by Troy0474 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:19 pm

Thanks, I'll measure them tomorrow. :)

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