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Church Beck

Post by The Chuckster » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:45 pm

I run gorge walking sessions in here lots, but.would.lovw to kayak it. Had anyone.paddled the upper bits, any video??

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Adrian Cooper » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:38 pm

The guide includes from the copper mine down.

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Re: Church Beck

Post by The Chuckster » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:40 pm

Yea, keen tomsee some video, the guide is quite vague, i doubt the author ran it all

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Re: Church Beck

Post by chicklechives » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm

Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published. Mostly in prijon probe or latterly an RPM.
Anyone ticked all his becks?

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Poke » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:15 am

chicklechives wrote:
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Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published.
10p says there's at least one drop on Church Beck that he didn't run :-)
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Re: Church Beck

Post by banzer » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:49 pm

Poke wrote:
10p says there's at least one drop on Church Beck that he didn't run :-)
Yes - the tight grovelly one before the main fall! The main fall itself doesn't have a plungepool of any note so you would have to go down sideways and take the hit, IMO.

I'll go run it with you Chucky. Monday special? :) (P.S. I know which Kex Gill you were referring to... not the one with the landslides and traffic lights, the one on the Wharfe side!)
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Re: Church Beck

Post by jmmoxon » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:05 pm

chicklechives wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published. Mostly in prijon probe or latterly an RPM.
Anyone ticked all his becks?
The probe was from eurokayak.
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Re: Church Beck

Post by chicklechives » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:01 pm

Indeed, realised I'd got my mid 90s not a spud zero rocker creek boats wrong. Correct probe to prijon gambler.

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Jim » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:28 pm

Aye that as the problem with spud-u-likes, they all missed the point that the real spud had loads of rocker making it way superior.

Mind you the Gambler was also much longer with an almost pointy bow which tended to turn inside out if you hit a rock with it.

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Adrian Cooper » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:29 am

Wasn't the Gambler an Eskimo boat or did Prijon make it as well?

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Jim » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:05 pm

I wondered that, it was from the era when Prijon were moulding Eskimo boats and I can't really remember which were which.

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Re: Church Beck

Post by StoneWeasel » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:39 pm

The Gambler was definitely made by Eskimo and I hated it!

I have never found any boat less controllable than the Gambler. It just seemed to do whatever it wanted, pretty much ignoring your input.

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Strad » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:15 pm

StoneWeasel wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:39 pm
The Gambler was definitely made by Eskimo and I hated it!

I have never found any boat less controllable than the Gambler. It just seemed to do whatever it wanted, pretty much ignoring your input.
Why do you think got the name? gamble every time you paddled :-)
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Re: Church Beck

Post by Ian W » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:38 pm

I've paddled 'most' of Church Beck at various water levels a few times.
The first fall after the flat section leading down from the Copper mines (where there is now a hydro scheme) was a nice little rapid (pics in the NW guide show me in my Spud back in the day). The section from here down to Miner's bridge is pretty boney, unless really high and then you risk getting washed over Miner's bridge falls.

Miner's Bridge falls - I've not paddled this but as stated it is very shallow and I think the scene of a broken ankle on a paddler.

The next few falls (what is often the Canyoning section) all go in Highish water, taking care on the first one as is it quite a narrow slot. The Chock stone is a nice little slide and the L shape falls ok if not got a tree in.

I've always portaged the large L shape falls/slab.

After that it is a great run and brilliant in High water/Spate (too high to gorge scramble) - I did once meet a group trying to scramble up when paddling it, not sure if one or both of us shouldn't have been there! To be honest this is the best section of the Beck and worth the carry up, Torver Beck is also a great spate run.

Trees can be a hazard but if you are in it for scrambling then you should be aware of the current state.

I've not got any videos I'm afraid.

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Dave Manby » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:17 pm

jmmoxon wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:05 pm
chicklechives wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published. Mostly in prijon probe or latterly an RPM.
Anyone ticked all his becks?
The probe was from eurokayak.
The Probe was a prototype for the plastic version of the Topolino - they basically got the shrinkcage wrong when they took the fibreglass boat and tried to make a blow moulded version. I think the mould left the factory by the back door certainly with the proviso that its origin should not be disclosed. So what I have type has to have "allegedly" added to the text!

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Jim » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:15 pm

Dave Manby wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:17 pm
jmmoxon wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:05 pm
chicklechives wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published. Mostly in prijon probe or latterly an RPM.
Anyone ticked all his becks?
The probe was from eurokayak.
The Probe was a prototype for the plastic version of the Topolino - they basically got the shrinkcage wrong when they took the fibreglass boat and tried to make a blow moulded version. I think the mould left the factory by the back door certainly with the proviso that its origin should not be disclosed. So what I have type has to have "allegedly" added to the text!
I have heard/read that allegation before, but put a probe and a topo side by side upside down and the difference is not just a miscalculation of shrinkage rates, the rocker profile is radically different.

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Dave Manby » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:15 am

I have never put a probe next to a glass Topo - I only had a glass double Topo

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Re: Church Beck

Post by Dave Manby » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:31 pm

Dave Manby wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:15 am
I have never put a probe next to a glass Topo - I only had a glass double Topo
Sorry only had a plastic single topo I've lost my glass double topo in rasta colours lent it to my brother who lent it on and he's lost touch with them so if anyone sees a red green and yellow double topolino let me know!

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