play/river boat for surfing

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play/river boat for surfing

Post by guy » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:59 am

My G ride is proving a bit short for surfing my local break so I'm after a few suggestions for a playboat or river runner that would make a good surfboat.

I'd like one of these

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but can't afford one
nearly all of the surf kayaks are suitable for paddlers up to 210 lbs fortunately I'm closer to 240
I'm in NZ so an older playboat or river runner is more likely to be available

what would be worth looking at?

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by StoneWeasel » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:34 am

Hi there,

I would not write off surf boats just because of your weight, if you can find a second hand Scarab, Megatron, Bullet S or even a Jester Cyclone they will all float you fine.

As for playboats / riverboats that surf well, I would say the best out there are the older Necky boats with my personal favorite being the Necky Jive (or Jive 8'10") but any of the older necky boats that you find comfy should be fine.

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by steddyjames » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:11 pm

I used to have a Necky Switch which I really enjoyed surfing, but I'd probably find one of the older river running playboats that have fin boxes under the arse, maybe a trickster or something. Don't bother with the ones that have fin boxes right at the back, not really a great position.

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by PeterG » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:20 pm

check out this thread about the supersport

http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/foru ... hp?t=55348

Long and fast enough, it surfs extremely well for a non-specialist boat and it should be possible to pick one up cheaply

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by steddyjames » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:40 am

PeterG wrote:check out this thread about the supersport

http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/foru ... hp?t=55348

Long and fast enough, it surfs extremely well for a non-specialist boat and it should be possible to pick one up cheaply
Hmmmm, back in the day Supersports were good but to be fair unless you're an absolute beginner now there are far better old skool boats out there that won't be that different in price.

I recall surfing a Mr Clean not long after they first came out and then getting back into a super sport, even then it felt like a dog in the surf so going back to one now when there are far better old boats out there would not be my advice, but each to their own. They certainly go in a straight line well I guess.

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by GEOFF S » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:30 am

another vote for the Necky Jive 810

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by warren » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:33 pm

Here are a few more options for you to try-
Wavesport Score
Riot booster 60
Pyrahna S8 325
As well as the necky`s
Again you should be able to pick these up prity cheap.

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by warren » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:44 pm

warren wrote:Here are a few more options for you to try-
Wavesport Score
Riot booster 60
Pyrahna S8 325
As well as the necky`s
Again you should be able to pick these up prity cheap.

Warren
EDIT-
Pyrahne S8 235 not 325.

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by Mont » Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:39 am

Also consider a Dagger GT Max, or a Dagger RPM Max, they surf quite well and are suited to bigger folk.

If you are in NZ, you might be able to pick up a Bliss-stick Freestyler second hand, my mate paddles one of these in the surf and it handles quite well.

A Nicky Jive has to be top of the list however, about the only plastic river running boat that I've been able to do a cut back in!

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by StoneWeasel » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:19 am

Mont wrote:Also consider a Dagger GT Max, or a Dagger RPM Max, they surf quite well and are suited to bigger folk.

If you are in NZ, you might be able to pick up a Bliss-stick Freestyler second hand, my mate paddles one of these in the surf and it handles quite well.

A Nicky Jive has to be top of the list however, about the only plastic river running boat that I've been able to do a cut back in!
GT Max is a possibility but I would not go with a RPM Max though, They charge the line pretty well but due to a very rounded displacement hull they do not turn very well on a wave.

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by spendy46 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:27 pm

Z.one is great in the surf

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by toesonthenose » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:36 pm

Definetly a necky witch/ switch/ zip. depending on what size you are,they are awesome in the surf, and great down the river too, i have used a wich for both and have found nothing that will do both as sucsessfully as the witch/ switch. im small and the witch suits me fine but you will prob want the switch, although the zip will be slightly longer and faster and they are all efectively exactly the same boat , just in diferent sizes.

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by NickB » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:32 pm

I have an RPM Max, only ok in the surf really, I have been thinking of an alternative myself and wonder whether the Axiom 9 has any potential?
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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by GEOFF S » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:09 pm

ive got a necky jive which I enjoy using in the surf, in fact I bought it because to my eye it looked most like a surf boat in the shop. Often wondered if there is any way of adding a temporary fin, I'm guessing not but people are pretty ingenious so...

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by cj » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:34 pm

When you sit on the beach and watch the river/play boaters just sitting on the shoulder with no more speed to be had. It must be time to change to a full on surf boat. They just move across a wave with no apparent effort. One chap off of Bude last year didn't even put his paddle in just changed his body position and he moved across the shoulder literally x2 the speed of the boat I was in.

If the cash is there it's got to be a full on surf boat even if it's plastic.

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Re: play/river boat for surfing

Post by Jim Tait » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:56 pm

cj wrote:When you sit on the beach and watch the river/play boaters just sitting on the shoulder with no more speed to be had. It must be time to change to a full on surf boat. They just move across a wave with no apparent effort. One chap off of Bude last year didn't even put his paddle in just changed his body position and he moved across the shoulder literally x2 the speed of the boat I was in.

If the cash is there it's got to be a full on surf boat even if it's plastic.
but its not that easy......


I was perfectly happy, bouncing along in my Prozone in Big waves, having fun, and thinking I was doing well
Then I got a surf boat................................
It's tippy; I still don't feel comfortable in it; little waves that I wouldn't have looked at earlier now scare the crap out of me............

There's a trade-off. It'll take a bit (lot) more time before I feel comfortable in the surf again,. But hopefully then, the sky's the limit???

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