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Post by HughdeIongh » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:40 pm

Hi

I have a Mazda Bongo campervan, and its brilliant as a base for trips, but my current method of getting the kayak on and off the high roof is a bit risky!

I am looking at getting the Karitek Easy Load roof bars, but still want to be able to put the roof up when camping generally (without the kayak on top, of course!)

Anyone any experience of putting the Karitek roofbars on a Bongo, and does the roof still lift ok?

Thanks

Hugh

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Post by stripper » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:21 pm

Hello Hugh
I have a Bongo with Karitech fitted. Roof still goes up ok with rack fitted. Maybe worth checking roof mounting points (on the van,not rack) and Aralditing them in if need be, mine were loose!
Downside is if you are roaming around its a bit of a pain to unload the boats everynight night and then reload in the morning . I tend to put the tent up instead.
Make sure to get the additional stabilising bar or the rack will twist and you'll struggle to load boats properly.
Hope this helps
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Post by Canoe-Cowal » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:58 pm

HughdeIongh wrote:Hi
I have a Mazda Bongo campervan, and its brilliant as a base for trips, but my current method of getting the kayak on and off the high roof is a bit risky!
I am looking at getting the Karitek Easy Load roof bars, but still want to be able to put the roof up when camping generally (without the kayak on top, of course!)
Anyone any experience of putting the Karitek roofbars on a Bongo, and does the roof still lift ok?
Thanks Hugh

Hugh
We have one too constant 4x4 and desiel. Two kayayks not a problem

Buy BnQ small fold out stool, doubles as a seat for proms in the park, this gives you extra height to pull down or push up.
Second the stabalizing bar as previous comment not only on the Bongo but on a normal car too. I think Karitek should supply these as standard.

A bongo rack is a must to put the karitek rack on to. So what we have and other bongo users is Bongo rack, Thule cross bars and then a karitek system.

Racks available at Bongofury.co.uk

Roof will lift, but I recon you woud burn out motor. Better to take them (kayak(s)) off and lie along side of van, if dodgy area put safety wire through alloys and tie kayaks too. Dont forget kayaks are there tho or you may damage wheel and kayak[s]
Great cars best RV by far

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Post by HughdeIongh » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:12 am

Many thanks one and all for your advice, and I certainly hope to go ahead and get a set (before the kayak & I fall off the ladder!)

Hug

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Post by Yvonne » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:32 pm

Hello just bought a bongo and looking into the kayak carrying options... How has the karitek worked out for you and do you have any further advise?

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Post by HughdeIongh » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:31 pm

Hi Yvonne

Yes, I went ahead and got the Karitek, and it works well on the Bongo. We had a little trouble with the roofrack fitting on the Bongo (a Bongo problem, not a Karitek problem), but once sorted, its fine. As the Bongo is quite a narrow campervan, the frame does stick out a bit, and I do tend to catch occasional vegetation from close trees, but nothing serious.

I have a small fold-up platform (the sort used when decorating, about 2 ft high) which helps when putting the kayaks up.

Hugh

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Post by Andy Wilson » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:44 pm

Hi,

I too have a Bongo and have had some issues with carrying kayaks on the BongoFury roofbars that fit onto the AFT. The subsequent advice I got from my local specialist was that carrying objects that catch the wind can cause the roof to twist with these kind of roofbars. This is what happened to mine when I carried a Topo-Duo on one side; the wind resistance caused torque in the roof and one of the cables that lifts the roof detached. I've since bought the Thule set for hi-top vans, not cheap but they are excellent quality and actually can be taken off and put back on in only a few minutes. Plus it removes the option of raising the roof with boats on, which trust me, does burn the motor out!

Andy

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Post by gg3rdp » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:54 pm

Hi

I've been looking at getting a bongo and my main concern is that if I go for one with the roof tent then I have to deal with attaching a roof rack to a fibreglass roof. This can't be very secure surely, and don't you find you're pretty restricted on weight as a result? 2 kayaks? 3 at most? Or is it ok?

On the other hand, having looked at the Bongos without the pop-up, that seems like it could be a compromise too far as well. Has anyone come across a roofrack that'll attach to the main body of the vehicle and so avoid the fibreglass altogether? Is that what the Thule set does Andy?? If so what exactly does does it fix to?

Thanks.

Rob.

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Post by Rob S » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:03 pm

Weve been looking at a karitek set up for our Landrover Defender 110 the only problem is we have a full experdition sized roof rack witch works well for two kayaks but we want to take four some times . Karitek have said they can adapt there system but just wondering if anybody has any other ideas .
I know its not a bongo but the problems the same regarding hight etc Getting two kayaks on after a day paddling is a struggle let alone four !
Rob .

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Post by MikeB » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:18 pm

Well, some years back I had a 110 with a 90 length rack and often carried 4 boats - and more. My set up had a pair of verticals front and rear (tailor made to slot into receivers on the horizontals so as to be removable) and an access ladder.

If carrying two, one on each side of the uprights, on their sides, was the norm. Or with three, two on one side and the third on the other. Loading was easy, especially with two people. Just put the bow on the rear of the rack (which I had protected with curved section wooden moulding and pipe insulation) and push. It did require a little shimmying along the side of the rack of course!

Four boats required a bit more shimmying, and getting back down the ladder could sometimes be fun, but I never had any problems.

The Karitek easy loader is a great bit of kit but the solution I've outlined worked fine and was rather cheaper. Just a thought anyway.

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Post by sleepybubble » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:05 am

Rob S wrote:Weve been looking at a karitek set up for our Landrover Defender 110 the only problem is we have a full experdition sized roof rack witch works well for two kayaks but we want to take four some times . Karitek have said they can adapt there system but just wondering if anybody has any other ideas .
I know its not a bongo but the problems the same regarding hight etc Getting two kayaks on after a day paddling is a struggle let alone four !
Rob .
Bit like Mikes suggestion stick a couple of sets of J bars on the roof rack. I have chequer plate on the front wings of my defender for standing on, but I'm not prissy about clambering all over the thing, its full of dents from other stuff. I can quite happily load boats on and off on my own, with two people its a doddle, with four people there is bound to be somebody left over.

Mark

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Post by Rob S » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:55 pm

I should have said that theres two tandem seakayak and two sea/touring kayaks Me and the mrs and two kids our landys fully chequer plated bonnet roof rack the lot so no probs climbing all over it im just after the best way of carrying 4 kayaks at 16ft plus .

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Post by dalriada » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:27 pm

gg3rdp wrote:Hi

I've been looking at getting a bongo and my main concern is that if I go for one with the roof tent then I have to deal with attaching a roof rack to a fibreglass roof. This can't be very secure surely, and don't you find you're pretty restricted on weight as a result? 2 kayaks? 3 at most? Or is it ok?

On the other hand, having looked at the Bongos without the pop-up, that seems like it could be a compromise too far as well. Has anyone come across a roofrack that'll attach to the main body of the vehicle and so avoid the fibreglass altogether? Is that what the Thule set does Andy?? If so what exactly does does it fix to?

Thanks.

Rob.
Hi Rob
The load weight limit for the Bongo lifting roof is 60kg, so yes you're limited to a couple of sea kayaks once you take the weight of the rack into account. I regularly carry 2 sea boats on the karitek rack on my Bongo, & have acrried a pair of open boats a few times as well (did carry 3 open open boats once with no problems, but drove pretty slowly!). My karitek is mounted on a pair of roof bars which karitek made up for me. The set-up is pretty strong. My rack is the wider version, to accomodate the open boats & I once managed to whack it into a protruding pipe on the Corran ferry. The impact shifted the whole rack back a centimeter or so & virtually ripped the lifting handle off it (which went through the fibreglass side of the roof), plus bending the roofbar attachment points. I was still able to drive home & the rack worked well enough to offload the boat ok. An hours work in Kariteks workshop saw the rack sorted & there was no damage to the roof mountings. A weekends work with fibreglass & the roof itself was good as new - still carrying the boats around on it 4 years later.

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Post by Jones Chris » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:18 am

Aha! Kayaking Bongo owners - brilliant.

I am looking at getting a van and am currently leaning to a Vito or a T4, I like the look of the Bongos and think you actually get a lot more van for your money with them as opposed to the Vito or T4 but....

bit worried about the fuel consumption, what are you getting without boats on the roof?

and I would be using it as my main car, so what are your comments on this? Reliable, nice to drive/ live with? What about parts?

I know this is a bit of a hi-jack of the thread but I'd be really interested in your comments.

Thanks,

Chris

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Post by dalriada » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:22 pm

Jones Chris wrote:Aha! Kayaking Bongo owners - brilliant.

I am looking at getting a van and am currently leaning to a Vito or a T4, I like the look of the Bongos and think you actually get a lot more van for your money with them as opposed to the Vito or T4 but....

bit worried about the fuel consumption, what are you getting without boats on the roof?

and I would be using it as my main car, so what are your comments on this? Reliable, nice to drive/ live with? What about parts?

I know this is a bit of a hi-jack of the thread but I'd be really interested in your comments.

Thanks,

Chris
For a '95 4WD 2.5 Diesel, I get 27-28mpg with just the Karitek rack, and 25-26mpg with boats on the top. That's on West Coast roads though, so the engine is going up & down through the box quite a bit. Mine is my main vehicle, but I cycle to work (short journeys & a cold auto-box = low 20's mpg). Great to drive, the mid engine means that they handle pretty well & the auto-box is a joy - although I did try my best to find a manual one! 4WD is no more expensive to run than 2WD & really works in the snow. A really relaxing van to drive on long trips. Reliability is as good as anything else, provided that you look after the cooling system. Lots of hoses & the mid engine means that a bit of preventative maintenance in the form of replacing pipes & radiator is a good ideam as is fitting a low coolant alarm. Most parts are easily enough to obtain through a few specialist dealers. Really good owners club (Bongo Fury) with a vast amount of technical knowledge. Downside is that the 4WD diesels are getting a bit long in the tooth now.

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Post by maritime » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:29 am

HI we have a mazda bongo and we solved the problem of kayak loading by buying a telos malone auto loader just punch that into youtube.
you have to buy the cradles seperately but works a treat,
the cradles are attached by wing nuts for quick removale, you just need a foldable step to help tie them in.Their is no weight problem like the Karitek and is cheaper with the ability to be transfered to any vehicle

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Post by maryinoxford » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:38 pm

Thanks for that, Maritime. I'm looking into loaders at the moment. I had seen the Telos on the web, but it's good to hear from someone who uses one.

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