Geoff Hunter's book & Angmassalik kayak^

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Geoff Hunter's book & Angmassalik kayak^

Post by dave miller » Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:10 am

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Does anyone know where I can buy, borrow or by some other means get a copy of Geoff Hunter's book "Angmagssalik Round Britain" from the early 80s (?).
Does anyone know if it is held by a public library?
It is a piece of history I missed, at the time I had dropped out of competition but hadn't got into sea kayaking.

Angmassalik ply kit
What is the current status of the kit? It doesn't appear to be available any more. Does anyone have plans or templates? Is it still copyright?
I am looking at it (or a similar boat) as a building project for a school canoe club, and as an exciting kayak suitably scaled for youth.

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Re: Geoff Hunter's book & Angmassalik kayak

Post by Craig Addison » Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:15 pm

Dave, I have searched Amazon and other online bookstores but to no avail, hopefully someone somewhere will have a copy.

As for the plans, again I have no knowledge of where to find plans etc. was it a Valley produced boat? if so they may have some info.
It might be worth contacting Duncan Winning,
(he's not on email but I have an address somewhere) He knows more than most on the history of sea kayaking, I seem to recall him talking about the Angmassalik during one of his presentations on sea kayaking evolution. Let me know if you want his address & I will email it to you.

Also you could try John Ramwell of ISKA fame.


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Re: Geoff Hunter's book & Angmassalik kayak

Post by Mark R » Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:02 pm

Hi Dave, nice to see you here.

Here's a long shot of a wild goose chase if ever I saw one, but....

The book you describe was on sale in the secondhand bookshop on Holdenhurst Road (in Bournemouth for those not in the know) about six years ago(!). At the time I chose not to buy it because of the extortionate cost of three quid...okay, I've no idea why I didn't, it's now a glaring gap in my vast paddling library.

Exceedingly unlikely it'll still be sitting there on the shelf but...??


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Re: Geoff Hunter's book & Angmassalik kayak

Post by Craig Addison » Wed Feb 27, 2002 12:12 am

Bet I can get there first!!!
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Angmagssalik

Post by Jim » Mon Apr 22, 2002 9:56 pm

Don't know about the book, but the kits used to be made by Granta. I think someone confirmed on uk.r.b.p a while ago that Granta went out of business a while ago. That doesn't mean the copyright isn't still active though. Derek hutchinsons book had some info about it, maybe even the designer's name, or a date (copyright expires right?).

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plans do exist..

Post by Bertie » Thu Jun 06, 2002 4:34 pm

there is a club in the UK which specialises in the historic kayaks and canoes, who have had stalls at the ICE in the past. I am in the process of restoring an Angmagsallik at the mo, and they did say they had the original plans for a fiver... Their details are:

Historic Canoe and Kayak Association

Membership is £12 per year.
Write to:

HCKA Membership Secretary
48, Russell Way
Rushden
Northants
NN10 8EJ
jteam@cwcom.net


I'm hoping to have it back on the water early next year.

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Re: plans do exist..

Post by David P » Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:10 pm

I have to confess to having (well, it's a friend's, not mine) a beautifully made wooden Angmagsallik! Hand made by Aled Williams in Anglesea, with a very thin glass tissue/resin "varnish", and a bespoke front deck (he didn't like the shape of the jointed component in the standard kit!). And if anyone's interested, then I suspect that my friend would be open to offers! At the moment, I probably take it out once or twice a year (it's in W London)...

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Angmassalik kayak

Post by dave miller » Mon Jun 17, 2002 1:10 pm

Thanks for the info.
I'm too heavy for the boat myself, I would need to scale the design up a bit.
I do remember paddling one as a 14 year old in about 1969, and even though I normally paddled racing kayaks, the boat was the most exciting thing I can ever remember paddling (even if it wasn't as fast as it felt). That boat has helped shape my life, and had an influence beyond canoeing.
I am considering it (or a variant) as a suitable touring ply project for a school canoe club as an addition to short plastic boats.
Please don't think I am in any way against playboats, but the canoeing world (and any club) needs fast boats as well, and at a reasonable price.

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Angmassalkik

Post by Mike Buckley » Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:55 pm

I stumbled across this - - - - -

Hudson Canoe

14 Hillside Avenue
Croton, NY 10520
Phone: (914)271-5387

- Angmassalik

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Angmagssalik survey

Post by Aled » Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:22 pm

I surveyed the Angmagssalik soon after building it. Mail me if you'd like a copy (see profile), it's in Excel format.

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Geoof Hunter's book

Post by Jonathan Theobald » Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:43 pm

Dave, try abebooks.com.

It searches second hand bookshops throughout the English-speaking world. I've used it to find some very obscure publications and it has yet to let me down.

When I checked just now the Angmagssalik book didn't show. But you can post a want so you get notified when it shows up - which it's bound to sooner or later.


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Book search

Post by Jonathan Theobald » Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:55 pm

You may have more success searching on Angmagssalik - rather than Angmassalik as you've written it.


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offset

Post by dstarda » Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:49 pm

Would it be possible to send me a copy of the Angmagssalik offsets. Thanks, DA

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Angmagssalik

Post by chris » Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:19 pm

The kit seems to be available from Ottersports

www.geocities.com/ottersports/can_kayals.html


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Angmagssalik

Post by Roland Amsler » Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:06 am

Hello Aled,

I came across the Greenland Eskimo S&G kayak Angmagssalik. I also saw James beautiful picture of it on the QAJAQ forum. Could I have a copy in MS-Exel format. My e-mail is: http://www.rolandamsler@hotmail.com. Happy paddling --- Roland

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Angmagssalik - message for Bertie

Post by ChrisS » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:42 am

Hi Bertie
About a year ago you posted that you were in the process of restoring an Angmagssalik. How did you get on? I have come into possession of the one DaveP mentioned on this thread as having been made by Aled. Its a beautiful boat and very fast. Its still in fairly good nick but has no footrests although it looks as if it once had a glassed in front bulkhead which is now missing. I've decided to fit some foot rests, and also possibly end toggles and some deck rigging to hold a spare paddle. The changes will detract from the aesthetics a bit but I don't feel comfortable with the present absence of safety features. Just wondered if you or anyone else could give me any advice on methods of installing fittings where the inside is out of reach?
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Post by Bertie.. » Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:11 am

Hi ChrisS

my Angmagssalik is now finished, thanks largely to a relative who has a lot more woodworking skills than me!

Conveniently, the front bulkhead on mine is in exactly the right place to act as a footrest, though the placement would of it limits you to 5ft 9in paddles like me. I'd imagine your bulkhead was possibly removed by someone taller.

I have thought of kitting it our with decklines etc for more adventureous usage than I currently get out of it, but have yet to do it so can't add to much help. I would have thought though that the easiest way to add deck lines would be to use raised fittings which could be screwed through the plywood skin into the frame beneath. Recessed fittings would be a pain to fit, particularly into the sealed off areas behind the bulkheads.

Hope that helps, happy to talk more, pm me and we can chat off line.

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Angmagssalik photos

Post by Shawn Baker » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:36 pm

Hello Bertie,

Do you have any photos of the restored kayak?

Aled kindly sent me the offsets in MS-Excel; the bottom panels look extremely narrow!!!

I input the offsets into Carlson's HULL designer to get an output of individual panel offsets.

Shawn

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Post by James F » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:02 pm

Shawn,

Your name seems familiar. Have you been to Iceland?

Regards,
James.




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Iceland?

Post by Shawn Baker » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:34 pm

Sadly, no...only vicariously through watching Shawna, Leon, and Chris' trip reports from last summer.

There is another Shawn Baker who is a world-class steep-creek and waterfall paddler, who I believe did some first descents in Iceland.

I hope to visit neighboring Greenland next summer, though!

Shawn

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Post by Guest » Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:24 pm

Heather R here.

Dave; I think I found a copy of the book you wanted:

Go to www.abebooks.co.uk

The book I found was written by J Clarke and is about Geof Hunter's trip around Britain in that unspellable kayak. Hope its what you were looking for.

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Geoff Hunter's book

Post by DaveM » Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:04 pm

Thanks for the info, but I have a copy - from Geoff Hunter himself.

Anyone who hasn't got it should buy one. This is where sea kayaking came from (before Derek Hutchinson became an oracle). It is an amazing story with near death experiences and amazing feats.

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Post by ChrisS » Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:24 am

There is another S&G Greenland set of plans (not available as a kit afaik) called Ammassilik from Riverrat which is not related to the Kayel Angmagssalik. But it also looks like a very nice boat.

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Re: Geoff Hunter's book & Angmassalik kayak

Post by Sharky » Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:20 pm

[quote="dave miller"]Book
Does anyone know where I can buy, borrow or by some other means get a copy of Geoff Hunter's book "Angmagssalik Round Britain" from the early 80s (?)



Are you still loking for the book?



I think I have a paerback copy (white with blue print aand line drawing of a kayaker on the front)



This may be a bit late now as I've just noticed when you first posted this



Anyway, if your still keen let me know.
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Post by ChrisS » Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:34 pm

I think Dave M said he had got a copy. I'm looking for one myself, how much do you want for your copy? PM or email me.
Chris

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Post by Guest » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:54 am

Chris

More than happy to pass it on to you. It was given to me by a friend so its only right to pay the favour forward.

Send me an e-mail with you address and I'll pop it in the post in the next couple of days.

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Post by Sharky » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:55 am

That last message was from me

Forgot to sign in first

Get in touch and let me know where to send it
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Message for Sharky

Post by ChrisS » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:45 am

Sharky
No email address in your profile so have PM'd you.
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Geoff Hunters Book

Post by Mr Hunter » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:28 pm

Hi I stumbled across this site and had to join up.
Geoff Hunter is my Uncle and has loads of copies of his book still. If anyone is interested in getting a copy i will gladly pass on your details to him just email me.

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Post by Bertie.. » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:46 pm

fantastic! I've just pm'd my details to you..

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