Phone Apps for weather warnings & tidal currents.

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Maverick777
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Phone Apps for weather warnings & tidal currents.

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Hi,

Re: Phone Apps for weather warnings & tidal currents.

Are their any iPhone Apps that would assist with early weather warnings etc?

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Psamathe
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Re: Phone Apps for weather warnings & tidal currents.

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Weather: For weather forecasts (and weather warnings) I use the MeteoGroup apps/forecasts. I've pretty well given up on the Met Office as I find their accuracy "poor" (particularly in the short term today/tomorrow). I've found MeteoGroup far better forecasts.

MeteoGroup apps (WeatherPro and RainToday) far superior to the Met Office app. WeatherPro and RainToday are free but you can also subscribe (not expensive) for longer ahead forecasts and additional info (one subscription covers both apps).
WeatherPro: http://www.weatherpro.eu/home.html
RainToday: iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/raintod ... 61840?mt=8, Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... .raintoday

On iPhone: both WeatherPro and RainToday will give warning alerts. On Android: I've no idea as I don't use Android.

I believe it is the MeteoGroup who took over the BBC weather contract from the Met Office. They make their own forecasts and are not just another GFS forecast presenter (far too many operations just re-presenting the basic GFS forecast which I find is not great).

On that subject there seem relatively few different "forecasts". Met Office do their own. MeteoGroup do their own. There are a few others but the vast majority of other online forecasts seem to just take the US GFS forecast (from the US National Weather Service?). So many others just download the GFS and present it as "theirs" and I find it at best an "ok" forecast. The GFS forecast model is run 4 times a day (so not frequent updates) with a 13Km resolution (for 10 days) and 27Km resolution (for 16 days) and it does not really take into account "local considerations". Loads and loads of the internet weather stuff is just GFS (i.e. all the same source, just packaging the presentation differently).

The WindGuru online web site presents different forecasts and can be interesting but the free access only gives the GFS and WRF (3Km), WRF (9Km) and WRF (27m) - I think you need a subscription to get other forecasts. They have an interesting overview of the different models https://www.windguru.cz/help.php?sec=models. Example free page https://www.windguru.cz/47926. Their site is very focused on wind forecasts.

Tides & Currents: I use anyTideUK (from National Oceanography Centre and National Environment Research Council) Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... e&hl=en_GB, iOS https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/anytide ... 22271?mt=8. Free needs to be online and has limited visibility into future. But you can buy the tables for the year (not expensive) and the tidal flows for the year (not expensive and separate from the tides) - which gives you the entire year and offline (i.e. without data/Wi-Fi). I've only used it for tide times so cannot comment as to how good the tidal lows are. I find both tides and tidal flow presentations are good and easy to use.

I am NOT an expert and the above is my understanding and is NOT advice - given that being aware of the weather can be an important safety consideration.

Ian

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Windfinder and Windy are both very good, reliable, accurate and easy to use phone apps which I use all the time to get wind, weather and tide information. Windguru is also quite good as is magicseaweed.
Currents and tidal flows are very different from basic tide timings (HW/LW) and you would be wise to research this further if it is tidal flow information (speed and direction of flow) you are after.
How the water is affected by the geography/topography in the area you want to paddle in is best learned from detailed local guides, local knowledge and experience.

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Do any of the above Apps send you alerts via Phone? I have a Garmin 1000 (Cycle GPS) which sends alerts, not sure if this is when synced with phone.

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Re: Phone Apps for weather warnings & tidal currents.

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The WeatherPro and RainToday have some push alerts. anyTide does not.

BUT (BIG BUT, VERY BIG BUT, VERY VERY BIG BUT, etc.) alerts or relying on alters is very bad. Alerts rely on coverage/internet/infrastructure so base anything on "I've not received any alert so must be ok ..." is a bad idea. If you are concerned about weather alerts for safety (e.g. being alerted to strong winds) then pro-actively check and don't rely on alerts. Where safety is concerned I'd recommend switching off alerts so you don't assume lack of alert=no alert. Lack of an alert does NOT mean no alert it might just mean that data coverage/internet/many causes mean you have not received the alert.

Ian

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