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A wee edit from a weekend in the Highlands featuring some of the harder rivers.



Enjoy!

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Some great footage there Callum, dare I suggest the transitions need some work though?

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What on earth happened at 2.10?

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Thanks for the feedback,

2.10 that drop is much steeper than it looks from that angle, just bounced up after getting sideways... his deck popped but he was fine :)

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Enjoyed that - looks like I have lots to look forward to when I move to Scotland in a couple of weeks!

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Funny and entertaining...keep it up chaps and chick :)
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Great to see some of the less-filmed rivers on video! Some perfect levels there too. Bet you loved the Farigaig.

Now how about the lower falls of Foyers? ;-)

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Nice, can we see the full rodeo ride please?

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morsey wrote:Nice, can we see the full rodeo ride please?
Do you meant the one at 5.32? I think Callum put down the camera to pick up a throw line! I did a load of spectacular ends and then flushed into the small eddy on river left.

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banzer wrote:Great to see some of the less-filmed rivers on video! Some perfect levels there too. Bet you loved the Farigaig.

Now how about the lower falls of Foyers? ;-)
Yeah the battery on the camera ran out before then. Needless to say we all nailed it! :-)
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jamie conn wrote:Do you meant the one at 5.32? I think Callum put down the camera to pick up a throw line! I did a load of spectacular ends and then flushed into the small eddy on river left.
If that was you dropping into that hole and instantly back looping, good effort. Staying in your boat and riding it out, nice one. Shame no video though, looked like it would dish out a high scoring run.

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Excellent, its great to see all the local vids from the UK. Just goes to show the Uk has so much to offer.

I bet 7.52 was a scary one.
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Great video Callum! Jamie's little beating was good. Never seen such a fast set of underwater cartwheels. The main Foyers drop must definitely go at the right level. Anyone ever done it?

Talking of local UK vids and Scotland, anyone seen Sneaky Freaky Creeky yet? There was a thread in the adverts section on here but it didn't seem to get much interest. I was excited to get back from my best ever weekend of Scottish boating on Monday to find it sat on the doormat. Not quite what I expected but really good. Not as much scary enormous stuff as I had hoped but loads of good footage and good paddling on the classics and some less well known stuff. Best bit is there's a version with all the river and rapid names on. Just doubled the length of my to do list.

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That's all pure beef. Great job!
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AWESOME!

Love the Lochay! First drop, as I see it, is hero or straight to AnE!

Good stuff, great vid and skills!

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banzer wrote:Now how about the lower falls of Foyers? ;-)

GULP!...

There is a line though...

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It was Boof or Die that had me most scared, most of the drops will merely maim you if messed up, not recirc you in a totally inaccessible pool for days on end...

Falls of Foyer, easy, just hit the kicker and then take the hit like a man...

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callum s wrote:Falls of Foyer, easy, just hit the kicker and then take the hit like a man...
LOL! There's just one line...

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Ok I'm reaching for my coat....but it goes...it really, so easily, honestly goes...

Just push a boat, with some water in it, off it three times and see what I mean...

It goes...

Right, I have my coat...bye :(
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...and then there's some nice grade 5/6 sump avoidance rapids on the bimble down to Loch Ness if you fancy some more action.

For the stupid, can you tell me the time on the vid of Boof or Die? Thanks.

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Boof or Die 7.05 - 7.20 ish not so impressive on video but scary...

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SwamP wrote:...but it goes...it really, so easily, honestly goes...
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I'm not convinced.

I'll do safety though and if your line works, I might give it a shot....

Great video guys. Awesome levels and some great rivers.

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I have to say looking at Foyers several times, I don't know of any other BIG falls I've seen on video (and this is right there amongst them, about 36m) that has such a kicker halfway down. The ones I can recall are just straight drops. The kicker at Foyers has the potential to right royally stuff you up... and you've still got another 25m to drop!! Those looking to get in the 'big league' in Scotland should go check out the Kilfinnan Fall on the way to the Garry. It's about 30m, and the plungepool is about 5m, in the middle! I know 'cos I've snorkelled it! :-)
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banzer wrote:Those looking to get in the 'big league' in Scotland...
Little League suits me just fine.

But have fun!!

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ianletton wrote:
banzer wrote:Those looking to get in the 'big league' in Scotland...
Little League suits me just fine.
Whats the league 2 or 3 below that?

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Yeah sorry guys wasn't starting a debate.

By living near there, going when the level is high, throwing a boat off several times as the level lowers to did the sweet spot...it goes.

But as you boys have seen over the last 4 years, I'm utterly crap these days, so I don't see why it would be me trying it :)
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Sorry lads, don't fool yourselves thinking we're even in a league, we're nothing more than playing in the street...

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Sorry for stealing this G ;)
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The plunge pool in that photo looks really shallow!

Next debate: how deep does a plungepool have to be per 10 metres of drop? It would be curved rather than linear I imagine, flattening out at around 6m, at a complete guess.

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banzer wrote:The plunge pool in that photo looks really shallow!

Next debate: how deep does a plungepool have to be per 10 metres of drop? It would be curved rather than linear I imagine, flattening out at around 6m, at a complete guess.
Fairly simplifiable physics I would think:

You need the mass of the boat and paddler, the volume of the boat and paddler and the height of the fall.

Assuming the drop is freefall, the boat accelerates under gravity over the height of the fall (I do not think terminal velocity is going to be an issue and lets ignore air friction anyway - one of our simplifications) to reach it's entry speed into the water.

Assuming no water friction (another big simplification) and since buoyancy also uses acceleration of g, your initial retarding force (assume boat immerses all at once, so already a 2m+ discrepancy) will be equal to (total volume of boat and paddler) * g - (mass of boat and paddler )*g. Divide this force by the total mass of boat and paddler to find the deceleration. Then calculate the displacement to decelerate from entry speed to zero and you have a depth to stop the boat. If you add the length of the boat to that you will have a conservative estimate of deep the boat should go on landing (it will be a bit shallower because the buoyancy force will grow during the first boat length and we have assumed it is zero, plus there will be some air and water friction retarding it the whole way down - but hell, you want to have some margin of error over breaking your ankles!

If you are going in non-vertical, than you need to to factor in some ballistics (quadratic function), hydrodynamic lift may affect the result slightly in that case too, but keep it simple and have that extra inch of clearance!

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Very nice, brought back memories of last week when I was up visiting relatives and walking on south side of Loch Ness.
On the Farigaig, did you run the slot just after the bridge at Torness, it looked very meaty, towback to opposite bank.
One morning looking out the window we could see the upper Abercalder running full on, would have been an interesting paddle I think.
We also saw an interesting little creek near Knockie, one very large drop, looked possible, but unfortunately the final rapid into Loch Ness is blocked.
On Wednesday the Falls of Foyers "almost" looked doable, lower level than the pics here, but showed a possible route on the left, away from the kicker. Different to the last time I saw it, when it was a very large icicle!
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