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My next set of whitewater kayak paddles will be ?

186 - Straight
1
2%
188 - Straight
1
2%
190 - Straight
4
9%
192 - Straight
3
7%
194 - Straight
2
5%
196 - Straight
8
19%
198 - Straight
0
No votes
200 - Straight
1
2%
186 - Cranked
2
5%
188 - Cranked
0
No votes
190 - Cranked
5
12%
192 - Cranked
5
12%
194 - Cranked
7
16%
196 - Cranked
0
No votes
198 - Cranked
3
7%
200 - Cranked
1
2%
 
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Post by Lambs to the Water » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:32 am

Just out of pure interest what length/shaft will your next set of paddles be ?
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Post by Mark R » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:42 am

No idea....but for sure, they'll be Seven2's.
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Perhaps you could ask about feather....

Post by Airmiles NLI » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:01 pm

In Canada paddles are commonly sold at lower feather angles - MEC are now doing 15 as standard, and Boatwerks 30.

Here, 45 is only recently becomin fully accepted, hence I've been quoted 10-12 weeks for a set of 15 Werners...

It would be interesting to guage the level of interest - i.e. are people buying 45 because it's what they want, or because it's all that's available?

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Post by Jim » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:09 pm

Since it should be tailored to your, hmm, arm length I guess although height was the old fashioned way, the poll won't tell you much unless you know the measurements of the paddlers.....

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Re: Perhaps you could ask about feather....

Post by little tim » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:20 pm

Airmiles NLI wrote:In Canada paddles are commonly sold at lower feather angles - MEC are now doing 15 as standard, and Boatwerks 30.

Here, 45 is only recently becomin fully accepted, hence I've been quoted 10-12 weeks for a set of 15 Werners...
Really? I regularly paddle with a set of the clubs lendal's with an almost 0 feather (ok, mebbe 10) and we have a few more of around 30.

My next paddles will most likely be 30's.

T

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Post by mharrall » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:55 pm

You forgot to add the feather angle permutation!

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Post by Lambs to the Water » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:36 pm

I guess I assumed that 45 would be a good standard for straights and 30 for cranks. This is based on what's in the shops rather than research. Am I far wrong ?.

Certainly the lowest generally off the shelf feather seems to be 45. Would it put people off if this was 30 for both straights and cranks. Is what's available off the shelf actually what people want or just what they're prepared to accept because they need a paddle now rather than wait weeks and weeks.

Obviously in a perfect world all lengths, feathers, colours, shaft types etc would be available off the shelf but for stocking purposes that's expensive and possibly unnecessary.
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Post by nc1584 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:25 pm

196 as im 6ft 2. Straight as I can't get used to cranked paddles. And either some Werners or Robsons. Though I can't decide on which!

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Post by SANDY0728 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:22 pm

Hopefully won't start a huge OT debate, but here's my view on feathers:

If you’re paddling against the wind 0 degree's gives you no respite at all and you’re working twice as hard as you should be. This is especially noticeable when surfing.

Equally the same effect could cause problems on rivers (in my eyes) if you’re upside down the paddles can get caught/stuck in an object/current then this force is acting on both blades simultaneously.

Example - capsize - one blade of the paddle gets caught in a tree the other end is in the current.
0 degrees - the force of water against the 'free' blade stops the paddler from being able to dislodge the paddle.
90 degrees - the 'free' end is perpendicular to the flow so it’s relatively easy to push the paddle up current and free the paddle.

Also - when learning to paddle in the pool, we used to capsize and 'paddle' as normal but inverted underwater. It was possible with 90 degree paddles, bet it’s not with less than 30 degree paddles.
It’s a good demonstration of what I mean though.
Try it!!

But 90 degrees is not good for the wrists or arms in general. So a compromise has to be found.

I've found 45 degrees to be ok.

Hopefully some of that makes sense!!!

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Post by ChrisMac » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:55 pm

My new Kobers are 15 degrees and fantastic. You can use both blades simutaneously when vertical.

Im not so sure of Sandy's point about blades getting caught. A blade can get caught what ever the feather. What I have found so far is with less feather it is alot easier to move the paddle around underwater because you can effectively stop the current having any effect on the blade and you cant do that with sat 90 degrees as there will always be a surface the current can push on.

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Post by Fashion Victim » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:51 pm

I wouldn't buy paddles from Next, but if Gap start making them (particularly in khaki), then I'd buy them!

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Post by Daffers » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:58 pm

I'm getting some ainsworth 195 or 197.5 stright K100 Asymmetric - want cranked but no way can I afford them!
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Re: Perhaps you could ask about feather....

Post by meatballs » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:04 pm

little tim wrote:
Airmiles NLI wrote:In Canada paddles are commonly sold at lower feather angles - MEC are now doing 15 as standard, and Boatwerks 30.

Here, 45 is only recently becomin fully accepted, hence I've been quoted 10-12 weeks for a set of 15 Werners...
Really? I regularly paddle with a set of the clubs lendal's with an almost 0 feather (ok, mebbe 10) and we have a few more of around 30.

My next paddles will most likely be 30's.

T
The 10-12 weeks would be the time it takes for the next crate to arrive from america to the uk. System-X probably dont keep many <45 paddles in stock because most shops dont keep many <45 paddles in stock either.

With lendal it takes summat like 2-3 weeks to get a paddle to any specification you want, unless you order when they close factory down for the summer :o

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