Advice Needed - Have you run an overseas school/club trip?

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Hi Guys,

I'm after some advice, I'm a teacher at a school and I'm looking to set up an overseas paddling trip for the pupils.

Does anyone have any experience of organising club or more specifically school trips paddling overseas?

I'm thinking of destinations such as the Indian Himalaya or South America, although any suggestions would be welcomed.

I'm basically looking to set up the trip for pupils with little or no experience of paddling, over the 18month lead in period I'll be training them to paddle with the trip at the other end as the climax of their training. So in terms of grade I'm not looking for really hardcore paddling destinations possibly grade II/III, with any harder rivers being run in a raft.

If anyone could suggest destinations, rivers and perhaps more importantly agents to help organise logistics. I have read the recent canoe focus article regarding the Phoenix canoe club trip to India and that is the kind of thing I'm after.

Many thanks in advance for your input.

Tom

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Hi Tom

I have run white water trips to the Alps and Slovenia in the past and personally paddled in both South America and India plus one of my instructors has worked with a rafting company around the Ganges area of India.

Over the last couple of years I have been working with King Edwards School in Birmingham training the pupils in white water kayaking and sea kayaking, with expeditions to Scotland and North Wales. Next year we are planning a white water trip for them to Slovenia. Similar to your plan we are training the puils over the next 10 months cumulating with the trip abroad in August.

If you are interested I could put together a programme for you to meet you requirements, this would be through Bryn-y-Mor with is AALA registered and specialises in outdoor courses for Schools.

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Chris Eastabrook Coaching continues to run excellent school programs based in the UK, Europe and further. This ranges from weekend coaching to expedition style trips run by full time professional white water kayak coaches with worldwide experience.

Each school program is unique and I've sent you a message with some ideas and further details.

Cheers

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Slightly different from what you are planning as I assume you will fly, but I had a conversation with a guy who is a policeman who takes youths kayaking to the Alps and the Pyrenees, they drive over there in minibuses. He said that many people are un awhere that the rules for driving a minibus in the UK are very different than France, Spain, Belgium etc. With a bus seating 10 people or more, you need a tachograph to record speed and time driving, and adhere to the time allowed to drive. You also need other things like some certificate to drive the minibus outside of the UK. And the penalties if you fail to do this and get stopped are very high.

I guess schools and scouts probably know all about this but I wonder how many canoe clubs know!

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Why go so far afield? Unless it is a private school where money is no object. Managing and financing a European trip sounds much more affordable and convenient for school children.

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tom82 wrote:Hi Guys,

I'm after some advice, I'm a teacher at a school and I'm looking to set up an overseas paddling trip for the pupils.

Does anyone have any experience of organising club or more specifically school trips paddling overseas?

I'm thinking of destinations such as the Indian Himalaya or South America, although any suggestions would be welcomed.

I'm basically looking to set up the trip for pupils with little or no experience of paddling, over the 18month lead in period I'll be training them to paddle with the trip at the other end as the climax of their training. So in terms of grade I'm not looking for really hardcore paddling destinations possibly grade II/III, with any harder rivers being run in a raft.

If anyone could suggest destinations, rivers and perhaps more importantly agents to help organise logistics. I have read the recent canoe focus article regarding the Phoenix canoe club trip to India and that is the kind of thing I'm after.

Many thanks in advance for your input.

Tom
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On a serious note, I did some paddling work with Cheltenham Bournside many years ago and they used to run trips to the himalaya's. Not sure if you have any links there but worth learning from their experiences?

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Whilst not kayaking related. The guys at world challenge have a lot of contacts and might be able to help out logisticly.

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Pete Scott at Exeter school took his school canoe club to India. I don't know Pete, (I just spoke about it briefly with one of the kids) but reports suggest he would happily share some info. Google will easily track him down.
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scottdog007 wrote:Slightly different from what you are planning as I assume you will fly, but I had a conversation with a guy who is a policeman who takes youths kayaking to the Alps and the Pyrenees, they drive over there in minibuses. He said that many people are un awhere that the rules for driving a minibus in the UK are very different than France, Spain, Belgium etc. With a bus seating 10 people or more, you need a tachograph to record speed and time driving, and adhere to the time allowed to drive. You also need other things like some certificate to drive the minibus outside of the UK. And the penalties if you fail to do this and get stopped are very high.

I guess schools and scouts probably know all about this but I wonder how many canoe clubs know!
Here is more information. Most of these retrictions only apply to the EU. The best way to get around them is to use or Hire people carriers or crew buses with only 8 passenger seats

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg ... 011275.pdf

http://www.keydrive.co.uk/LinkClick.asp ... 67&mid=384

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The guys at world challenge
Expect to pay like lots and lots of £££££.

Seriously though, I did a two week scout trip costing >£400 Then WC was offered to me for £3600 (+other costs) for 3 weeks.

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Hi Guys,

Thanks for the info, I want to go further afield than the alps because I think it adds another element to the trip learning about and interacting with people whose culture is very different to ours. I know about the mini bus restrictions I've taken a school trip climbing in the alps before. It is a right faff but our accounts department are pretty switched on with that kind of stuff. I've been in touch with Pete from Exeter school and got some feedback from him. Thanks again for the info guys.

Tom

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I'm one of the students who went on the trip with Pete Scott (mention above).
If you want I can ask him to send you an e-mail, just PM me if you want me to and i'll get the request through to him.

And good luck, it should be awesome!!
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Apologies if you are already aware, but the Youth Explorers Trust may have knowledge of youth trips to the areas you mention ....

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HarryWats0n wrote:
The guys at world challenge
Expect to pay like lots and lots of £££££.

Seriously though, I did a two week scout trip costing >£400 Then WC was offered to me for £3600 (+other costs) for 3 weeks.
I have a mate who works the World Challenge. They put together great expeditions, and was suggesting picking there brains...

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Tom82

Have sent you a PM

Cheers

Matt

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Ecuador? https://www.smallworldadventures.com/index.html

Only reason i mention that is i like the promo video theyve done and it looks like theyve got a well stocked place down there.

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