200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

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200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by DaveWortley » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:20 am

BBC weather last night "Torrential rain expected in Europe, Some areas of southern France could see up to 200mm of rain!"

Don't know how far into the alps it'll get but could send the rivers there a bit mental. Paddle safe everyone....

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Simon Westgarth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:43 pm

May be but at Puy St Vincent, the story is of a forecast with a little amount for rain. Snow showers expected down to 2100m!!! So I would say the base level will be dropping along with the temperature over the weekend.

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Lowri Davies » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:34 pm

Its certainly rained plenty over the past 24 hours and the rivers are very high and rising again. The Durance at l'Argentiere is big, brown and fast - rising by the hour. Forecasts here are for more rain. The main French weather forecasters say rain...

It may be time for weaker groups who plan to be out here in the next week or so to consider their options.

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Joe Pineapples » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:26 pm

We ran the Ubaye racecourse today , it was big when we got on and continued to rise , as had the Bachelard , things are definetely on their way up right now ....
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by buck197 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:18 pm

Boo hiss as I'm on my way to the Durance valley this weekend.
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by jackbay131 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:31 pm

BOO HISS? im gutted im not going for another 30 days, keep it coming keep it coming (:
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by charleda99 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:52 pm

I'm on my way out to the Durance Valley this weekend with a group of just under 40!...we have a few weaker paddlers coming along who would unfortunately not be able to get on the rivers in the current conditions. So not good news for us.

Please keep us updated over the next couple of days, it would be a great help.

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by DaveWortley » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:55 pm

jackbay131 wrote:BOO HISS? im gutted im not going for another 30 days, keep it coming keep it coming (:
You don't want loads of rain you want super hot days that melt the snow and make the rivers good. Flash flooding causes the rivers to be full of crap and muddy and makes paddling quite cold if it's raining. Much nicer to have lots of water in the bright sunshine.


The sunshine run is always good whatever the level, big bouncey wave trains :)

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by superman » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:28 am

Appreciate being kept informed as the situation develops. Doesn`t sound ideal, hopefully htings will calm down.

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Re: Southern Alps

Post by Croft » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:52 am

Nearly all rivers in Piemonte (N. Italy) are well above recommended paddling levels this morning: http://www.ckfiumi.net/idro/

Looks like the southern Alps are awash. Levels in the central Alps are high but in general still navigable.
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by SwamP » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:19 am

Who cares....bring the rain this way please!!!!!!!

Come on wind, do your thing!!!!
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by enb » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:26 am

Does anyone know what its like in Austria at the moment as we are heading there at the end of next week?

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Westy » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:41 am

Metcheck forecast for Braincon for the next 2-3 weeks is mainly dry with little rain. I'm out there first week in July so hope things settle down!

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by tavigan » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:50 am

We're heading out this weekend... hopefully it is sunny next week!

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Madsalty » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:33 pm

Hey,

I'm currently in the alps and the rivers are huge.

It's been raining for 2 days and the slalom course at l'argentier has risen nearly 2 feet.

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Post by Poke » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:11 pm

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by DaveWortley » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:13 pm

http://www.hautes-alpes.net/kayak-rafti ... rance.html

That is looking brown and chunky.... Rab camera is offline, hopefully that doesn't mean the Durance is up to the rafting buildings but could mean so... Once again, paddle safe everyone.

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by plopster256 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:20 pm

Hey

Has any one got any surgestions of alternative lower water areas which would be worth looking at for the following week in france or beyond?

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Simon Westgarth » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:06 pm

plopster256 wrote:Has any one got any surgestions of alternative lower water areas which would be worth looking at for the following week in france or beyond?
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by buck197 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:36 pm

I've done that Simon and the webcam shows the sun is shining at 1700, fingers crossed for the rivers to fall somewhat otherwise Mr 1664 may have a hammering.
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by kingdou » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:51 pm

Has any one got any surgestions of alternative lower water areas which would be worth looking at for the following week in france or beyond?
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by jmmoxon » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:23 pm

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Lowri Davies » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:54 pm

The rivers here are high but don't get the wrong idea from those news reports - there is no epic flash flood in Hautes Alpes - that is further South-east it seems. This afternoon the rain broke and we enjoyed some sunshine. Myself and some friends paddled the Upper Guisane at a nice level (but decided not to carry on down the lower after seeing a bloke cutting down trees and throwing them in the river!).

The slalom course at l'Argentiere is certainly high, but peaked last night. I paddled it in my slalom boat this afternoon, which was fun!

The Guil is pretty epic at the moment and there is still lots of very dark water coming down the Onde.

On almost all runs you do not want swimmers on right now as eddies are limited, the flow very fast and water absolutely freezing. There is some fresh snow on a couple of the peaks around Briancon. For experienced groups, there are some great runs still to be had at these levels, but those who may swim in big waves or fast eddylines should probably wait until the rivers drop somewhat.

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by kingdou » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:46 pm

As said above the water levels are high but there has been no flooding in the Hautes Alpes. A slow moving landslide pushing mud into the Onde for the last week giving it a very dirty colour. I run the Gyronde from Vallouise to l'Argentiere twice yesterday and lower Guisane today, it is big and fast but normal for this time of year with such a big snowpack.

The weather should clear up this weekend and forecasted sunny for next week.

Happy paddling.
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Lowri Davies » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:09 pm

Levels are dropping off a bit now. Just had a stonking day on Briancon Gorge and Lower Guisane - levels pretty much high end of medium for this time of year. If the rain holds off, things should be all good (though still pretty high) for those arriving this weekend.

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by chrishull69 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:08 pm

Hi all

Any update of the water level ? In the car driving over tonight. Are there any new hazard to look out for

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Lowri Davies » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:16 am

Hi Chris,

The second batch of rain that was forecast never arrived and the rivers are generally now at a good, high but not in spate kind of flow. Most have even returned to their normal blue colour, though the Guil was still pretty brown yesterday. The seriousness of a swim has certainly reduced with the rivers no longer travelling through the trees on the banks.

Yesterday, Rabioux wave was superb and I will probably head there for a session today while the level holds.

There is news that Gardian Angel has collapsed and is unrunnable, but I have not been to look myself yet. There is a tree to avoid on the Lower Guisane, but as long as you are paying attention, you will easily get round it. Otherwise, as long as you take the usual care to look out for trees / washed up debris, there is no big news as far as hazards go.

I hope to see you on the water while you are out here.

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by superman » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:28 am

Thanks for the update.
Will be ther next week and itall sounds much more promising than last week
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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Lowri Davies » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:19 pm

3 days of no rain and cold temperatures have seen the levels drop dramatically. Almost everything at normal flows now, though the Guil still reasonably high.

Now that the rivers are lower, it would certainly be nice if the sun came out!

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Re: 200mm of rain forecasted for Southern France

Post by Mark Allen » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:46 pm

Lowri Davies wrote: There is news that Gardian Angel has collapsed and is unrunnable, but I have not been to look myself yet.
Any one got any more news about this?

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