What rivers would you include in a UK extreme kayaking film?

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What rivers would you include in a UK extreme kayaking film?

Post by nick_roberts » Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:13 pm

A lot of people want to go abroad and paddle classic hard rivers in say, Norway or California, the type of rivers you see in a lot of kayaking films, but we have our fair share of good stuff here.
What would you say are the top 5ish rivers in the UK that could be described as hard classics to aim for?
I would say it should be at least challenging enough to be in the "Very difficult/extreme whitewater" section of UKRGB (so not including undoubted classics such as the upper dart) , as well as being reasonably well known, preferably not just to locals, flowing reasonably often, and preferably not a scrapy ditch.

ie If you could make an extreme paddling film showing how awesome the whole UK is for kayaking, with 5 of the best rivers to show off, what would they be?

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Post by DAB » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:45 pm

Nevis?

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Post by justin-g » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:03 pm

For Devon it's gotta be the Plym or Walkham.
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Post by rich gunton » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:12 pm

Plym, Tywi below the dam the last bit that rarely gets paddled, Gamblin, lugwy swallow falls down. Haffes.

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Post by Dug » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:14 pm

Nevis, Lochy, Falloch, Leven and possibly Affric or Conon?

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Post by Simon Westgarth » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:18 pm

justin-g wrote:For Devon it's gotta be the Plym or Walkham.
It's always interesting that steep rapids never look that steep on the screen whether it's video or photos. The Upper Plym to paddle is excellent, but no image I have seen does it much justice, perhaps inter mixed with head-cam footage, she'll look ace, and that is pretty much the same for most of the Nevis. Pool drop waterfalls and slides make for the best footage, so find this style of white water for a UK action film. In Devon there are two options the East Oakment Slides and Hoaroak waterfalls.

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Post by nick_roberts » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:20 pm

Maybe the fairy glen

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Post by Simon Westgarth » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:21 pm

nick_roberts wrote:Maybe the fairy glen
Not really, steep runs or in flood condition.

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Post by justin-g » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:37 pm

Simon Westgarth wrote:
justin-g wrote:For Devon it's gotta be the Plym or Walkham.
In Devon there are two options the East Oakment Slides and Hoaroak waterfalls.
The Oakment slides also look flat as well - i took some footage of them and it was pretty unimpressive. That thight drop on the upper Hoaroak does look good on film - there is some great footage somewhere of Bambino hand paddling it.
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Post by furby » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:56 pm

The east lyn?

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Post by Joobe » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:09 pm

I would say: Nevis, possibly Moriston, Swale,

I personally think the Orchy is a great paddle, and is one of the few similar to more continental flows (alps e.t.c.)

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Post by Chris_Eastabrook » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:15 pm

Falloch should be on the list, with good light conditions and a bit of effort it would capture well onto film.

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Post by TheKrikkitWars » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:42 pm

The Meig with a proper amount of water in it and the Conon.

Possibly the Gamlan?
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Post by Simon Westgarth » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:03 pm

furby wrote:The east lyn?
Again not really, not steep enough

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Post by Simon Westgarth » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:08 pm

We have all been to the French Alps, every video you see on some classic run or another looks flat, never as steep as you remember it when you were heading down river. Pool Drop rivers with significant drops, so probably about 15-20 runs in the UK.

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Post by Rdscott » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:13 pm

Cumbrian Upper esk might be good however the landscape around it doesnt give it the hard core commited walled in run that you expect to see.

Not managed to jump on it yet but curch beck in big water could be an intresting one with some must make moves to avoid smashing your boat.

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Post by Joobe » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:22 pm

Upper esk is a good call.

Doe and possibly the twiss?

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Post by Rdscott » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:46 pm

Personaly think the doe and the twiss are over rated not paddled them myself but been with people when they were paddling them and there didn't seem to be any consistancy in the drops a bit of a one hit wonder IMO

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Post by Robert Surrey » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:48 pm

TheKrikkitWars wrote:The Meig with a proper amount of water in it and the Conon.

Possibly the Gamlan?
Conon??? Have you ever seen it with water in?
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Re: What rivers would you include in a UK extreme kayaking film?

Post by Lancs_lad » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:48 pm

Personaly think the doe and the twiss are over rated not paddled them myself but been with people when they were paddling them and there didn't seem to be any consistancy in the drops a bit of a one hit wonder IMO
Not my opinion but the river doesnt have to be a good overall paddle to look good on film.

With proper camera and light the doe could look better than my attempt.

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Re: What rivers would you include in a UK extreme kayaking film?

Post by Dug » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:39 pm

Though a lot of UK rivers do not look as impressive as bigger features in other countries. Maybe why there are not any modern kayaking dvds featuring the UK? Either that or unpredictable water levels.

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Post by Steeler » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:49 pm


Its been up before but hey its a nice collection of drops in Scotland all be it a bit old now!

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Re: What rivers would you include in a UK extreme kayaking film?

Post by TheKrikkitWars » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:22 pm

Robert Surrey wrote:
TheKrikkitWars wrote:The Meig with a proper amount of water in it and the Conon.

Possibly the Gamlan?
Conon??? Have you ever seen it with water in?
I meant the Conan, and I'm working on the principle that it's not unlike the guidebook photos in real life, Genuinely scary.
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Post by Dr Robin » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:06 am

Lledr and Mellte.

In good water levels both runs are an impressive sight.

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Post by SwamP » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:18 am

I’d say none of the above; if it’s extreme and limited to top 5 then none of these runs that hundreds have done come in to it.

Wanna aim high and be able to use the workd extreme without sounding like a pubeless rollerblader; Falls of Douglas, Bracklin Falls, Hermitage, Falls of Clyde, End of the World (with some water in it)…..there are endless amounts of things to fall off of and paddle into.

For a film reading the guidebook and looking for G5 is a good start.
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Re: What rivers would you include in a UK extreme kayaking film?

Post by Ollieswims! » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:18 am

Stock Ghyll waterfalls?

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Post by Rdscott » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:26 am

Yes Ollie but whos ran them, the top one goes but you need lots of safety cover to stop you going down the second one wouldnt look to good on a film.

Oh im gona add rydal beck on to the list.

John and Paddy (the guys who ran the top drop of stock ghyll) have some cool footage of them running it it looks good, think paddly even styles over one of the drops.

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Re: What rivers would you include in a UK extreme kayaking film?

Post by justin-g » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:45 am

The footage of the big fall being run by Lowri's brother on the Maddach looks prett off the scale to me - so how about the Maddach? You could combo the best drops from the Maddach, Gain and Gamlin.

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