Have Jackson made a decent creek boat?!

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Have Jackson made a decent creek boat?!

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http://www.jacksonkayak.com/kayaks/prod ... 010villain

It actually looks like it might be quite good... let down no doubt by having an inflatable happy arse pad, and a big pile of knitting on your lap once you've done the backrest. You can even buy it in proper, er, "super" Linear plastic if you want to be able to mend it mid adventure... but that's the basic spec!

Has anyone seen one in the flesh?

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Interesting that of the five main points at the bottom they bullet point 'easy to roll' as their design feature....
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Its interesting that the 5 main points have nothing to do with what makes up a good creeker, from pictuer it doesnt look to have enough rocker, but hey lets wait and see.

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So do most manufacturers though to be fair
High knee, and low hip cockpit coaming with Pyranha's key hole cockpit and new lower seat position gives great comfort for hours in the kayak, and makes Karnali especially easy to roll
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The great news is the basic Linear boats don't have any blow up fittings, so for those who dont like the more expensive out fitting you now have a kayak with really nice basic fittings with a linear kayak. That will be cheaper as well.

Excellent news for some.

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Ryan P wrote:Interesting that of the five main points at the bottom they bullet point 'easy to roll' as their design feature....
I'm sold..as long as one of the bullet points is "floats" as well.
dam the dart :)

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And now the link goes to some blank content.....

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Perhaps the world wasn't ready for the villain? Or perhaps it is in hiding?

Will the big model be called Blowfeld? I hope so.

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Blofeld. Ernst Stavros.
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Mark R wrote:Blofeld.
Why would Jackson name it after a cricket commentator?

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Summit to Sea wrote:
Mark R wrote:Blofeld.
Why would Jackson name it after a cricket commentator?
Are you being funny or particularly cleaver??

You know James Flemming (the bond author not the haggis munching paddler) was best mates with Henry Blofeld's dad and that's where the name came from in the books.
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Wasn't it Ian Flemming?

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Yes it was - not sure what i had james flemming on my mind...
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justin-g wrote:
Yes it was - not sure what I had james flemming on my mind...
Because James Fleming is a living legend

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justin-g wrote:Yes it was - not sure what I had james flemming on my mind...
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Here are those images of the new prototype Jackson Villian

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Initial reaction - slightly burn like from the side and at the front with a more bulbus tail? Although pretty hard to tell from those photo's... but where's a paddler going to fit in that?
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It's so good it doesn't need a paddler.
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I'm no expert but I'd say the cockpit-hole is a little on the small side...

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It reminds me a bit of the Habitat...

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Having done some extensive IP* testing I have found the new Villain to be super fast, easy to edge yet extremely stable and has ample Rocker so it really does boof like a dream. Knocking a grade off even the hardest rapids it will have you charging like a Hero with Fun big surfs. If you own a Villain and any Jackson play boat you really are going to have a Dynamic Duo instantly turning you into a boating Star!






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ol wrote:I'm no expert but I'd say the cockpit-hole is a little on the small side...

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No. The cockpit is standard size, but the boat is 800 metres long.
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Mark R wrote:
ol wrote:I'm no expert but I'd say the cockpit-hole is a little on the small side...

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No. The cockpit is standard size, but the boat is 800 metres long.
And has taken the landing deck that was pioneered (badly) on the Remix 59/69/79 by Liquid Logic to the next stage; a flat surface in the centre of the kayak...
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i think with a bit more rocker this could potentially be a very good boat

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Rinseout wrote:I think with a bit more rocker this could potentially be a very good boat
Can i ask have wee seen a side profile of this boat. can we say this with confidence can we say this without having paddled it.

It looks like a good boat but all jackson boats do, some just dont paddle that well in my oppinion, will be nice to see if they have got something for the masses like the burn jefe and nomad wich everyone seems to like.

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Eventually I will grow tired of posting this link, and no longer find it hilarious. But not yet.

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It looks like a good boat but all jackson boats do
Do they? IMO all JK creekers look like they could have fallen out the back of a horse!

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justin-g wrote:
Summit to Sea wrote:
Mark R wrote:Blofeld.
Why would Jackson name it after a cricket commentator?
Are you being funny or particularly cleaver??
I was trying to do both, but clearly failed!

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where's all the front volume? with that fat arse isn't resurfacing going to be fun..... especially if you like coming up backwards...

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Noooo the cock pit is neither too small nor is the boat 800 metres long, jackson have just decided that why bothering sitting in a boat when you can lie in a coffin style white water submarine like this.
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