The Welsh Rivers Guidebook

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The Welsh Rivers Guidebook

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The Welsh Rivers Guidebook, by Chris Sladden.

In the coming months Chris Sladden together with Patrick Clissold and
Tom Laws will be compiling a revised edition of this now classic
publication. Fully updated and re-written, they hope to have it ready
for the start of winter paddling season. Chris felt that it was well and truly time
for an update, to bring the book into the new millenium.

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All the best,

Tom, Chris and Patrick.

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Great news - i just bought the last one and as much as i love the content - as a johnny foriegner i find it almost impossible to use. Even with a map besides the book.

Will the new one have beta boxes and better categorisation?? I think the UK GB with its small regional chapters is really easy to follow.

Also will be it be an "all rivers" or "best rivers" version?

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What's wrong with the current edition that needs updating? Are you including a noticable number of new rivers, or just updates on existing rivers?

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Whilst I love my battered old copy and have spent many happy hours both on the river and planning trips with the book, I do find it hard to navigate compared to the newer format of the English WW and Scottish WW books that have come out since. I find the grouping of rivers into an area with a summary page and index map really helpful when planning a day or a weeks paddling. SOmething along those lines would be great.

Good luck, I look forward to seeing a copy when you have finished!

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Good work.

Modern pictures is all I would ask for in a reprinted addition of a guidebook and any runs that had been missed by the previous one. Leave everything else as it was, well maybe make it a bit more user friendly regarding navigating through the pages.

Heard the Lake District guide was getting a face lift as well.
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Cool Great news

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great news, where can I put my advanced order for a signed copy.

The current copy is always with me when driving around wales hunting down rivers, know quite simply by the title "Sladden's guide"
I will now need to change this to "Sladden-Laws-Clissold Guide" in light of this new edtion.

Is this going to be published through Pesda Press. I love thier format and quality production of other guides, and it will make my bookcase look nice as all my kayaking books will be the same size.... ;-)

good luck and looking forward to the release

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Tom,

More clear and precise directions and discriptions to the access and egress points would make life so much easier. The current edition can make it a little difficult for those of us that don't live in Wales and are not familiar with the area that they are planning to paddle in.

I hope this constructive feedback helps.

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Make sure you put the dangers of the Llyn Brianne Spillway in there! Some say it'll take your head clean off!

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Excellent news. My only request would be to include better maps; the ones in the current book are so tricky to work out! :-)
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Congratulations!

I'm sure Chris was talking about doing this the first time I ran the canyon with him in 2004 (or was that just a reprint?), but he really is incredibly busy so having Tom and Pat on board should help!

Obviously I own a copy, don't think I've ever used it though, only ever paddled the Wye, Dee and Tryweryn in Wales and they are all too well known to need a guidebook for! That won't stop me buying the second edition though!

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Good luck, sure you'll do a grand job.

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Thanks for the suggestions guys, I know how much use and enjoyment the first book gave me when I grew up paddling the rivers of Wales and I'm really happy to be helping Chris update it and hopefully inspire some more people to get out and enjoy lots of fantastic rivers.

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Awesome lads, Keep it up!

Look forward to it!
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Pretty much what Patrick said. The book opened the window to Welsh exploring, and I leapt merrily through! Nitty Gritty details will be anounced in due course. Thanks for the support.

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Are you going to update the status on access and give a dedication to Garth? :)
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Don't forget to downgrade Fairy Falls to a 4-. ;-)
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Rockrat wrote:Modern pictures is all I would ask for in a reprinted addition of a guidebook

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I like the old school-ness of guidebooks!
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Sweet boys.

let me know if I can be of any help with Images/Quotes etc. Still collecting stories for my 'History' Book.





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A picture of the massive tree in the Clydach (Usk trib) might be good - it isn't going anywhere. I walked up there on Sunday but didn't have my camera.

The current edition is superb. Mine has lots of pages stuck together from where it got wet (honest) so water friendly paper would be nice. The maps could be a little more literal as well, although working out what they mean can be quite fun.

Good luck with the grading.

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Fiary falls is a five so there!!!!!!!

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Can we have a glossary of Welsh phrases please, especially those that might see us achieving high results in the Octagon! Ddiolch :-)

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The one thing I can think of which would be useful would be an overall map of Wales in a similar format to that on the web version. This linking to the smaller maps throughout the text would be really helpful.

Cheers chaps, keep up the good work.

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Adrian Cooper wrote:The one thing I can think of which would be useful would be an overall map of Wales in a similar format to that on the web version. This linking to the smaller maps throughout the text would be really helpful.
Agreed.

A list of numbers would be useful for the phone gauges aswel. I know not many people know about the phone gauges to, so may help there. Init!

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Can we have proper Grid References; not just the 6 figures, but the 2 letters that precede that:

i.e. for the infamous Mile End Mill it's SJ 207 428, not just 207 428

That actually applies to all guidebooks, not just the Welsh Rivers, as I'll often have a look on the OS website or Memory Map (If I have that region) before going somewhere. It used to be that they'd be used in my Sat Nav, but the one that let me put in OS grid ref's died a death!
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Lat/Long for them would be nice, as they work in all sat navs (well, most of the ones I've seen.), and help with looking on google maps, etc.

Other than that, I eagerly wait a new version.
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All useful stuff guys, suggest away!

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Of course Garth's stretch lat and long so we can eat his wife's cakes and wish him a good day!!! Lol
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How exciting - a revised guidebook to read whilst on the toilet. Should probably buy the Scottish one since moving up here, rather than continuing to read about welsh rivers that are 500 miles away. Anyway good on you Tom/Patrick.

Only additional suggestion is a little play/surf/squirt section at the back with good spots to go to for each. Oh how I miss the trap!

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Another vote for Lat/Long co-ords. Also, how about a section on where all the killer paddler friendly cafés and suchlike!

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