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Want to go out and do some first descents, i don't want to nick anyones next big adventure, just looking for somewhere that no one wants to go to that hasn't been paddled.

Just interested thats all - Jay

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Banzer wrote:How many of you would love to do a first descent? You don't have to be in Ecuador or Vietnam, you can do it right here in the UK, there are plenty (mostly up in the north- bit far from Glasgow, sorry Neil!!).
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I would love to get into Bhutan, I suspect that there is still plenty to be had over there.

It doesn't really matter if no one has been there, people will still happily talk crap about places they have never been.

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skip wrote:It doesn't really matter if no one has been there, people will still happily talk crap about places they have never been.
Naughty skippy! :-)

It's been paddled but I am still keen to get to Iran one day... Dave Manby/Tweaking the nose of terror have convinced me!

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I hear there's a whole load of first descents to be had in Norfolk - I've been told there's moving water there and everything...
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Kamchatka has an almost endless supply of first decents, not even the Russians have done many trips there because it's so remote.

I was reading a book on Scott's Antartic trip and while he was there it was quite a warm year and the ice had receded quite a bit. He describes large waterfalls and wild torrents. That would definately be a first decent.

You could always follow Si Tapely's lead and explore Mordoor...I mean Greenland.

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Patrick C wrote:I was reading a book on Scott's Antarctic trip and while he was there it was quite a warm year and the ice had receded quite a bit. He describes large waterfalls and wild torrents. That would definitely be a first decent.
So if we keep flying and driving 4x4s we will have a whole exciting new continent to explore? Fantastic.

I was reading an account of a boat that got stranded on Bering island a while back, there were mentions of extreme weather and steep rivers - that would be an interesting add-on to any Kamchatca mission.
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Ha ha Mr white! there's loads of moving water just no rocks or gradient.

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probably loads in china, to my (limited) knowledge not much has been done outside of tibet and the upper bends of the yangtze.

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Several of the Scottish boys just go out and do these fairly regularly. They're the ones that (a) are really good boaters, and (b) don't make a big deal of it or post it up on ukrgb.
Me however, I'm neither a nor b so I get 'super stoked' and stick photos up because I feel a sense of achievement... not necessarily that the paddling is really hard, but that you've found a possible run, walked up it, chopped wood out, then made it back with a buddy or two at a suitable level. The whole process might take many months. I was hoping at the last Wet West Paddle Fest that levels would be up and I could share one of them with all you lot. A UKRGB first D with twenty paddlers- that would be a laugh!! Sadly it wasn't to be.
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High Brace wrote:somewhere that no one wants to go to that hasn't been paddled.
Sounds like North Scotland to me- see the Fort william thread !!! :-(
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Just to turn your question back on itself ... why do you suppose that no one has paddled, in the areas concerned?
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Northern Iraq, March/April would be the season so off you go. Natives are friendly it is just the occupying terrorists who will make your life hard!

Iran has loads to be done.

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Mark R wrote:Just to turn your question back on itself ... why do you suppose that no one has paddled, in the areas concerned?
I'm reminded of that brilliant plan someone had of paddling the world, from war-zone to war-zone.
What happened to that guy?
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LOL!
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Bit cold, but maybe a few tribs of Lake Vostok. Take your thermals just in case.
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Anyone paddled in Cuba. Indeed is there any paddling in Cuba?

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Jules wrote:Anyone paddled in Cuba. Indeed is there any paddling in Cuba?

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Hang on a tick, that sounds ace.

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I want to go paddle in Gabon. Lots like this:

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A quarter of the country is National Park... though the inevitable hydro scheme plans are on the table... read about it here
http://news.mongabay.com/2007/1104-gabon.html
...quite sad really. I bet sections of that are paddleable.

looks like the river Wensum in the dry season
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The Kimberly region of Western Australia has plenty of unrun rivers. Unfortunately getting to them during the wet season would be difficult or expensive(helicopter).

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I went on a trek in Namibia in 2000. Parts of it were down dried up river beds (which obviously had contained a ****load of water in the past). If you managed to get there during the rainy season (April?) and caught them with water, they would certainly be firsts (though judging by the looks of some of them, probably also the first descentant's last).
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mikeybaby wrote:anyone paddle stanley Ghyll?
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Surely Stu has done that? I thought it looked like a goer, duck for the bridge though. And the 10m waterfall, though tight, should go- but maybe at lower levels as a stunt, rather than levels you'd want for the rest of the trip. The gorge reminds me of the Kaituna, very un-Lakeland.
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banzer wrote:I want to go paddle in Gabon. Lots like this:
It looks like the river is infested with giant Broccoli.

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morsey wrote:
banzer wrote:I want to go paddle in Gabon. Lots like this:
It looks like the river is infested with giant Broccoli.
Didn't Palm have a shot of somebody looking to seal launch into that a few years ago?

What about China, there must be stuff there that hasn't been paddled?

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The Yucatan Peninsula, and for good reason.

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I think if we are looking for first paddle descents, two criteria are
essential:

1) There must be some gradient (otherwise it is not a descent)
2) There must be a water surface.

Underwater caves tend to fail on both counts, grumpy....

But there are some open rivers of substantial size in caves, some of
them even in the UK, and even near well-known paddling trips.

If you took a boat through the 80 foot sump (rather than the bendy
crawls) I bet you could paddle parts of Ogof Afon Nêdd Fechan
(Little Neath River Cave), though it would be a frightening place in
the sort of water levels necessary ... I can't offhand think of any rivers
in Yorkshire caves which would be wide enough, but a bit of research
might get answers to the other thread on drops over 5m !

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Everywhere

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I think that there are First Descents just about everywhere in the world...as you still here of FD in the Alps, Norway, US, Southamerica etc., etc.,...

It is just a matter to look harder...obviously, countries like Algeria, Sudan, Chechnya, Columbia and the sorts of places offer much easier access to FD then many other countries...but dont forget to take real body armor and airstirke support just in case...

The Himalayas still offer a huge array of First Descents and so do the Andes and the Rockies and i am sure the UK too.....as with all paddlers...you just got to go higher up the river...or find the right time...or go to a battlefield...:)

I think there are about 2045859 FDs still waiting in the Himalayan Mountain Range...

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