One boat ..... Then which boat

Peter Holgate · Post by **Peter Holgate** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:12 pm

I need to make some space so am selling a couple of boats and want to buy a playful river runner (grade 4+ and still play in a hole) to fit me (5'10" 90kgs & size 10's). Have tried the GTX, Recoil, Stretch and Xeno all have their merits.

But what would you go for?

Noj · Post by **Noj** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:16 pm

I:3 223 Personally. Great boat. Bit more on the playful side though so you'd find grade IV+ quite challenging!

sehenley · Post by **sehenley** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:53 pm

I've paddled a GTX a little bit and really liked it, but i own a eskimo salto and really like eskimo's build quality and price, so the xeno might be a really good choice.

Sam

StoneWeasel · Post by **StoneWeasel** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:11 pm

If I could only own one boat it would be without doubt the Pyrahna 7-0, I really love that boat and it just seemed to do everything so well, so controllable, so much speed for it's size, resurfaces fairly well and yet is oh so easy to cartwheel and surfs all right (for a plastic boat) as well, I only sold mine as I wanted to learn to loop and that seemed to be the one thing the 7-0 would not do that easily.

I miss mine but at least I see it about from time to time bringing Bod the joy it once brought me.

Denzil

clarky999 · Post by **clarky999** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:14 pm

Recoil or an Ammo - depending if you wre more into steep stuff or playing about.

mountainboy · Post by **mountainboy** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:18 pm

I went for a Hoss. does everything I need.

Ricks-Freestyle-Mind · Post by **Ricks-Freestyle-Mind** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:19 pm

As Stoneweasel suggested, the 7-0 is a great boat. It's pritty much spot on. If the Recoil ha kind of taken over the 7-0 blenned with the Stretch, then that might be worth a look at.

I quite like the look of the Jackson Fun. Never paddled one though.

jonba · Post by **jonba** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:21 pm

I'm about the same size and weight as you and I went for the Perception Blaze 7.1. Originally had a Disco and a Java. Quite like it, used it in the surf where it's not bad (not the quickest boat I've paddled), carves well. Runs rivers Ok. Don't really play in holes but I imagine you could throw it around easily enough.

I also tried the Stretch but it was a lot more expensive. I3 and hated it, hard to get in and out and slow on the water. The Juice but that was to low volume and tail happy. Looked The Fluid Spice but they hadn't come out in this country when I needed a boat.

clarky999 · Post by **clarky999** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:24 pm

I used to have a perception spin, and that was a lovely boat. Is the blaze anything like it? I think it's a little bit longer than the spin...

morsey · Post by **morsey** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:26 pm

If you want to play in Hurley/HPP/Mill on the Exe type play waves/holes I'd reckon the Recoil. If you just want to hit the odd hole/wave and play as you cruise down rivers the GTX or Stretch.

morsey · Post by **morsey** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:28 pm

If you want to play in Hurley/HPP/Mill on the Exe type play waves/holes I'd reckon the Recoil. If you just want to hit the odd hole/wave and play as you cruise down rivers the GTX or Stretch.

Fluid Spice is also worth considering.

jimkennedy · Post by **jimkennedy** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:30 pm

Disco - King of Boats...

Dave T · Post by **Dave T** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:30 pm

Have you looked at the Fluid spice? I haven't paddled one but they do look like a really good design. Might be worth a look, especially with the relatively cheap retail price. A quick google just found them for £600 including delivery here.

Matthew Lomax · Post by **Matthew Lomax** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:32 pm

Ricks-Freestyle-Mind wrote: I quite like the look of the Jackson Fun. Never paddled one though.

Under the right bum can be very playable, serfs relay well and I love mine of rivers. Haven taken mine down down Bala mill with out problems and herd of plenty off people using theirs for grade IV (4).

Ricks-Freestyle-Mind · Post by **Ricks-Freestyle-Mind** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:43 pm

Matthew Lomax wrote:
Ricks-Freestyle-Mind wrote: I quite like the look of the Jackson Fun. Never paddled one though.
Under the right bum can be very playable, serfs relay well and I love mine of rivers. Haven taken mine down down Bala mill with out problems and herd of plenty off people using theirs for grade IV (4).

You sure about that?

Rikhensman · Post by **Rikhensman** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:50 pm

Matthew Lomax wrote:
Ricks-Freestyle-Mind wrote: I quite like the look of the Jackson Fun. Never paddled one though.
Under the right bum can be very playable, serfs relay well and I love mine of rivers. Haven taken mine down down Bala mill with out problems and herd of plenty off people using theirs for grade IV (4).

i used to have a jackson 4fun and used to take it down all sorts of grade 4 and one or two grade 5 as well, magic boat. had to buy 2 boats to replace it.

the dagger RX is meant to be good as well

Matthew Lomax · Post by **Matthew Lomax** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:51 pm

Ricks-Freestyle-Mind wrote:
Matthew Lomax wrote:
Ricks-Freestyle-Mind wrote: I quite like the look of the Jackson Fun. Never paddled one though.
Under the right bum can be very playable, serfs relay well and I love mine of rivers. Haven taken mine down down Bala mill with out problems and herd of plenty off people using theirs for grade IV (4).
You sure about that?

Yer 2ed time and first was my fault not the boat.

peakfreak · Post by **peakfreak** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:53 pm

Peter

I paddle a Recoil and it is a little belter, I'm about your size but smaller feet, (you know what they say about people with big feet though). It surfs with little or no effort due to it having the deepest rails on the planet ;-)
Dead easy to throw about when you want to and I feel is big enough to give you a nice sense of security when running bumpy water.

If you go for the Recoil though don't get the Rapid+ outfitting cos it is crap IMHO.

Ricks-Freestyle-Mind · Post by **Ricks-Freestyle-Mind** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:55 pm

peakfreak wrote: ...I'm about your size but smaller feet, (you know what they say about people with big feet though)....

Big sock's?

peakfreak · Post by **peakfreak** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:59 pm

Ricks-Freestyle-Mind wrote:
peakfreak wrote: ...I'm about your size but smaller feet, (you know what they say about people with big feet though)....
Big sock's?

:-)) TaDa! Right first time Rick

Tom_Laws · Post by **Tom_Laws** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:07 pm

Ricks-Freestyle-Mind wrote:
peakfreak wrote: ...I'm about your size but smaller feet, (you know what they say about people with big feet though)....
Big sock's?

Big sock's what?

Big sock's unattractive odour? Big sock's attractive and homely pattern.

MJS · Post by **MJS** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:02 pm

Have you thought about the wavesport EZ series? Love mine, although not sure if they've been replaced by the EZG now. Worth a look

Wease · Post by **Wease** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:09 pm

I love my CR 125 :)

the_usual · Post by **the_usual** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:21 pm

Rikhensman wrote:I used to have a jackson 4fun and used to take it down all sorts of grade 4 and one or two grade 5 as well, magic boat. had to buy 2 boats to replace it.

Can vouch for this boat, having bought it off Rik :)

Taken it down some grade 3's and a 4 and had zero trouble. It's the 4 Fun (for taller paddlers) for which I'm on the lower end of the playable weight range, so it's difficult to play with (that being said, it's probably more my fault!)

Highly recomend it!

ChrisMac · Post by **ChrisMac** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:23 pm

Either the Ammo or a Bliss Stick Scud. Both work on the river and a friend of mine can cartwheel his scud in the holes on HPP. (And no he is not a 20 stone monster)

ChrisMac

andy_kapt · Post by **andy_kapt** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:05 pm

I've got a Perception Blaze 6.9, this thing plays really well, and I've run reasonably hard stuff in it, Lyn gorge, Findhorn gorge, Upper Dart.... The boat handles it all really well, it's a very very forgiving boat, I've never been held back at all by it.

It also plays really well, not particularly fast, but fast enough. Another brilliant thing about the Blaze is the outfitting..... It's as good as I've ever found, and theres even room for big feet. £450 new..... Bargain!

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:32 pm

Wease wrote:I love my CR 125 :)

Not a Honda Fizzy man then?

Wease · Post by **Wease** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:37 pm

Not a Honda Fizzy man then?

I don't understand.
(I'm not a man)

Peter Holgate · Post by **Peter Holgate** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:42 pm

50cc moped from 30 years ago FS1E

Jones Chris · Post by **Jones Chris** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:59 pm

ChrisMac wrote: Both work on the river and a friend of mine can cartwheel his scud in the holes on HPP. (And no he is not a 20 stone monster)

ChrisMac

Aaah thanks mate!

Can vouch for the Scud plus it has the enviable quality of making you feel invincible! Or maybe thats not such a good thing?

Chris

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