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Church Beck

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:45 pm
by The Chuckster
I run gorge walking sessions in here lots, but.would.lovw to kayak it. Had anyone.paddled the upper bits, any video??

Thanks
Chucky

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:38 pm
by Adrian Cooper
The guide includes from the copper mine down.

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:40 pm
by The Chuckster
Yea, keen tomsee some video, the guide is quite vague, i doubt the author ran it all

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm
by chicklechives
Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published. Mostly in prijon probe or latterly an RPM.
Anyone ticked all his becks?

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:15 am
by Poke
chicklechives wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published.
10p says there's at least one drop on Church Beck that he didn't run :-)

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:49 pm
by banzer
Poke wrote:
10p says there's at least one drop on Church Beck that he didn't run :-)
Yes - the tight grovelly one before the main fall! The main fall itself doesn't have a plungepool of any note so you would have to go down sideways and take the hit, IMO.

I'll go run it with you Chucky. Monday special? :) (P.S. I know which Kex Gill you were referring to... not the one with the landslides and traffic lights, the one on the Wharfe side!)

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:05 pm
by jmmoxon
chicklechives wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published. Mostly in prijon probe or latterly an RPM.
Anyone ticked all his becks?
The probe was from eurokayak.

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:01 pm
by chicklechives
Indeed, realised I'd got my mid 90s not a spud zero rocker creek boats wrong. Correct probe to prijon gambler.

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:28 pm
by Jim
Aye that as the problem with spud-u-likes, they all missed the point that the real spud had loads of rocker making it way superior.

Mind you the Gambler was also much longer with an almost pointy bow which tended to turn inside out if you hit a rock with it.

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:29 am
by Adrian Cooper
Wasn't the Gambler an Eskimo boat or did Prijon make it as well?

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:05 pm
by Jim
I wondered that, it was from the era when Prijon were moulding Eskimo boats and I can't really remember which were which.

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:39 pm
by StoneWeasel
The Gambler was definitely made by Eskimo and I hated it!

I have never found any boat less controllable than the Gambler. It just seemed to do whatever it wanted, pretty much ignoring your input.

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:15 pm
by Strad
StoneWeasel wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:39 pm
The Gambler was definitely made by Eskimo and I hated it!

I have never found any boat less controllable than the Gambler. It just seemed to do whatever it wanted, pretty much ignoring your input.
Why do you think got the name? gamble every time you paddled :-)

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:38 pm
by Ian W
I've paddled 'most' of Church Beck at various water levels a few times.
The first fall after the flat section leading down from the Copper mines (where there is now a hydro scheme) was a nice little rapid (pics in the NW guide show me in my Spud back in the day). The section from here down to Miner's bridge is pretty boney, unless really high and then you risk getting washed over Miner's bridge falls.

Miner's Bridge falls - I've not paddled this but as stated it is very shallow and I think the scene of a broken ankle on a paddler.

The next few falls (what is often the Canyoning section) all go in Highish water, taking care on the first one as is it quite a narrow slot. The Chock stone is a nice little slide and the L shape falls ok if not got a tree in.

I've always portaged the large L shape falls/slab.

After that it is a great run and brilliant in High water/Spate (too high to gorge scramble) - I did once meet a group trying to scramble up when paddling it, not sure if one or both of us shouldn't have been there! To be honest this is the best section of the Beck and worth the carry up, Torver Beck is also a great spate run.

Trees can be a hazard but if you are in it for scrambling then you should be aware of the current state.

I've not got any videos I'm afraid.

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:17 pm
by Dave Manby
jmmoxon wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:05 pm
chicklechives wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published. Mostly in prijon probe or latterly an RPM.
Anyone ticked all his becks?
The probe was from eurokayak.
The Probe was a prototype for the plastic version of the Topolino - they basically got the shrinkcage wrong when they took the fibreglass boat and tried to make a blow moulded version. I think the mould left the factory by the back door certainly with the proviso that its origin should not be disclosed. So what I have type has to have "allegedly" added to the text!

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:15 pm
by Jim
Dave Manby wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:17 pm
jmmoxon wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:05 pm
chicklechives wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Pioneered by lakes paddling legend Richard Evans. Certainly ran everything he published. Mostly in prijon probe or latterly an RPM.
Anyone ticked all his becks?
The probe was from eurokayak.
The Probe was a prototype for the plastic version of the Topolino - they basically got the shrinkcage wrong when they took the fibreglass boat and tried to make a blow moulded version. I think the mould left the factory by the back door certainly with the proviso that its origin should not be disclosed. So what I have type has to have "allegedly" added to the text!
I have heard/read that allegation before, but put a probe and a topo side by side upside down and the difference is not just a miscalculation of shrinkage rates, the rocker profile is radically different.

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:15 am
by Dave Manby
I have never put a probe next to a glass Topo - I only had a glass double Topo

Re: Church Beck

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:31 pm
by Dave Manby
Dave Manby wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:15 am
I have never put a probe next to a glass Topo - I only had a glass double Topo
Sorry only had a plastic single topo I've lost my glass double topo in rasta colours lent it to my brother who lent it on and he's lost touch with them so if anyone sees a red green and yellow double topolino let me know!