Exactly. The Ramblers, and all 'official' countryside access groups (Open Space Society and Youth hostel Assoc especially) at the time specifically disavowed the kinder Mass Trespass at the time. Most of the people involved in Kinder had previously had no involvement at all in the Right to Roam movement. The galvanising effect of the trespass wasn't the action itself, but public shock at the severity of the punishments for the protagonists. But there were a great many in the Right to Roam movement who still considered it had been counter-productive for many, many years after. Benny Rothman (organiser of the mass trespass) and Tom Stephenson (most prominent of those with the Ramblers, and a civil servant who led the development of the National Parks Act 1949) held a deep mutual resentment towards each other well into the 1980s/90s because of these disagreements over the most productive route forward on the Right to Roam.bouncyboatbloke wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:48 pmDitto the Rambliars, who kick started their campaign for the right to access the countryside with a mass trespass on Kinder Scout, [ although in truth most of those attending were from the local communist party who saw it as an opportunity to stick it to the local land owning gentry].
We can debate now what effect the Kinder Mass Trepass had - it certainly stuck in the public's mind and helped act as a 'keystone' for those campaigning for access to build the story of exclusion. But without the work of Stephenson and many others working within the civil service and in Ramblers etc change never would have happened. We owe both (and MANY others) a big debt.
It should also be remembered that the Kinder Mass Trespass was in 1932 - the CROW Act (which still doesn't fully solve the issues on land let alone water) didn't come until 2003.