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Best Selling Boat...

Post by MattD » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:12 pm

Not per boating-capita.

Not per company (although this would be indicative, I guess).

Not per country (although this would be interesting to see the regional trends).



What do people think (or know) is the all time max'grossing kayak/canoe?
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Post by Munki » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:17 pm

RPM has gotta be up there as its a classic

Although:

The Dancer has been around a lot longer and is still being sold/bought by clubs and centres...

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Post by TOPO Maniac » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:21 pm

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Post by Steve B » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:21 pm

I wonder if it's not a white water boat. People tell me that the industry sells more leisure-type boats - SoTs and the like - than white water ones.
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Post by Danny_Y » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:26 pm

I was informed that the Dagger RPM was the worlds best selling boat in the loosest term... including Coracles, Submarines, dingies etc.

Why?

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Post by Mr Hoppy » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:30 pm

It is unlikely to be a ww boat, especially given that companies are changing designs so frequently now. SOT's haven't been around long enough to make a huge impact.

I'd have thought it would be a centre boat, maybe a dancer or a master. Centres tend to buy rucks of them and as they are used fairly intensively they get replaced fairly regularly.

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Post by Mark R » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:36 pm

My hazy memory is that whilst the Dancer is the best selling plastic kayak of all time, the current best sellers are certainly touring kayaks. Playboat sales don't even register on the grand scale of things.

Happy to be corrected if my memory is wrong.
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Post by meatballs » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:38 pm

Dancers, followed by

Ok Frenzy (quite big abroad afaik) or Perception Scooter sit on tops I'd guess...

There's probably loads of stuff like Perception Acadias/Kiwi2s and other horrible boats which are high up there!
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Post by Lancaster Simon » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:48 pm

I think the Dancer or Inazone will be pretty high but something like the Perception Carolina is probably more popular

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Post by Bod » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:57 pm

I thought it was the Dagger RPM but the Dagger website only says "the most successful whitewater boat ever". You have to believe that the Dancer beat it, when I spent time in the USA 18 years ago it was Dancers or Old town canoes so I'm going to go with the Old Town Discovery.

Edited to change my mind before anyone else posted.
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the biggest sellers....

Post by Tim S » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:03 pm

Well you are indeed right in a sense. The RPM is the bigget selling 'Whitewater' kayak ( and that includes the good old dancer )

However the biggest selling 'kayak' of all time ( and still a huge seller ) is the Old Town Canoes 'Otter'

More info here: http://www.oldtowncanoe.com/kayaks_otter.php

From the last figures i saw ( 2004/2005 ) they sold more of these in the US then seakayaks and whitewater kayaks GLOBALLY!

Although lets face it most individual models of sit-on-top actually sell more each year alone than the whole of the whitewater market put together.

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Post by Mark R » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:05 pm

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Post by MikeR » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:02 pm

I'd heard that the Perception Whipit/lash was up there in the list of top sellers* due to bulk purchases by the armed forces. Not sure whether this was UK-only though.

Mike.

*I have no idea how much truth there was in this - it could well be a load of cobblers.

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Post by James Hartley » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:05 pm

From what I've seen, the Dagger RPM has always been popular, but I seem to remember that at one time all the river boats tended to be an Innazone.

Ok I only know whitewater boats, and in that category, they have to be in the top two!
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Post by ChrisMac » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:45 pm

I would go for the Perception Kiwi.

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Post by David Fairweather » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:51 pm

Mafia?

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Post by Tom_Laws » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:54 pm

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Post by Mark R » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:07 pm

skip wrote:Mafia?
I was skimming through some stuff on the HnM site last night - interviews with their elite sponsored team. At least one made reference to 'efforts by some to hinder us'. Hmm.

HnM suppress publication of a lukewarm review of their creek boat (that they've never themselves paddled on Grade 5) by slandering the testers and denying that the test happened. When someone dares point out that this is happening, they are clearly just out to 'hinder' the company. Interesting logic.

Why am I still irritated about this? Because despite all evidence to the contrary, judging by the above they clearly still maintain that the problem was with the magazine testers, to whom, by now, they owe a truly massive apology.
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Post by Andy Wilson » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:03 pm

MikeR wrote:I'd heard that the Perception Whipit/lash was up there in the list of top sellers* due to bulk purchases by the armed forces. Not sure whether this was UK-only though.

Mike.

*I have no idea how much truth there was in this - it could well be a load of cobblers.
Not in my experience. We have had a lot of Pyranha Masters and Dancers in the past though. These days we buy a lot of Inazones for clubs and the centres were using H3s last time I was there.

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Post by Tom_Laws » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:10 pm

All the millitary set ups I've seen/worked for have had Masters and Crossfires (urgh). Some have also had RPMs.

RPM is still my all time fav boat, mainly because it was my first boat.



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Post by Daffers » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:30 pm

I did my 1* in an RPM....
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Post by Padski » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:42 pm

I learned how to roll in an RPM a big milestone for me it will always have a place in my heart. On the other hand my first boat i bought was an inazone and from the ammount of those i have seen about they can't be far behind.

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Post by councildog » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:19 pm

Its got to be the inazone top boat o how i miss her so much

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Post by slipperystav » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:23 pm

Would it depend on how long that boat was made for, or how many reincarnations the boat has had?

Dancers have been used far and wide, but where they in production as long as some of the other boat in their various version? eg kendos and inazones.

And does the inazone count as one boat and the I series as another? Surly The I boats are and evolution of the same mould so still count as the same boat. Not forgeting all the different versions of the boats that have been produced over the years.

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Post by Patrick Clissold » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:44 pm

Oh come on the Inazone and the I:3/4 have completely different hulls. The I:3 looks as if it came from the S:8 which in turn came from the s:6.

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Post by Ricks-Freestyle-Mind » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:39 pm

Hi guys,

Wasn't the Pyranha Crobat a popular boat too? The Pyranha Roto bat must be up there as how many clubs use these boats in swiming baths?

Thanks,

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Post by Patrick Clissold » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:42 pm

Do you mean Acrobat?

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Post by Ricks-Freestyle-Mind » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:46 pm

Yep Acrobat.

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Post by benjamin » Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:42 pm

Is there anyone that has not paddled a Dancer? Perhaps that will determine the most common boat.

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Post by Patrick Clissold » Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:44 pm

There is an awsome poster I saw in WWTCC at Shepperton. It was of two guys surfing a wave on the Zanskar in Dancers.

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