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Nice.

Particularly enjoyed watching the interaction of the water with the hull of his boat.
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Really enjoyed that. Good one.
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So out of 4 minutes, we didn't see a kayak for a minute (25% of the video), and more than 2 minutes of the video were in slow motion (50%). Possibly 1 minutes worth of film in there max.... And it wasn't even to dubstep! I

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Dave, I was waiting for that type of response due to the video having an intro and build up and therefore a decent structure to it. Hence I have another video that will suit such an attention span and patience better.


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Dirty Dave wrote:So out of 4 minutes, we didn't see a kayak for a minute (25% of the video), and more than 2 minutes of the video were in slow motion (50%). Possibly 1 minutes worth of film in there max.... And it wasn't even to dubstep! I
There was another one the other day, an offering from Mr Troutman IIRC, there was a load of chat on that one and for the Youtube Generation it went on a bit.

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Congratulations Simon, I'm sure it took you weeks to come up with that response and find a suitable bait video.
I was your fishy and had the line and sinker too ;)

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Nice footage and editing. Put it on mute after ten seconds, blah, blah, blah yawn.

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Well, I got to watch it tonight at home and I think it is a really great little video.

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I not sure why there is a need to have these sorts of video's. Basically he's saying "I like kayaking" then the reasons why he does, isn't it pretty obvious anyway, why we all like kayaking and most of the viewers of the videos will be kayakers or other people into sports like climbing, mountain biking, skiing, snowboarding etc, who we all share a similar thought on why we do our sports and anyone else can probably understand too, so why do we need telling? The video was well edited with some good shots but I find the narration bit is pointless, we all understand, am I alone in thinking why does this need to be said, pictures or footage can say more than words just by themselves.

Sorry guys I just don't understand.

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I not sure why there is a need to have these sorts of video's. Basically he's saying "I like kayaking" then the reasons why he does, isn't it pretty obvious anyway, why we all like kayaking and most of the viewers of the videos will be kayakers or other people into sports like climbing, mountain biking, skiing, snowboarding etc, who we all share a similar thought on why we do our sports and anyone else can probably understand too, so why do we need telling? The video was well edited with some good shots but I find the narration bit is pointless, we all understand, am I alone in thinking why does this need to be said, pictures or footage can say more than words just by themselves.
Because he's got a fancy new FS700 camcorder and sound equipment, okay?! ;-)

Okay yeah, it wasn't exactly original and I agree with you, there's only so many times someone can say that they like kayaking because it lets you see places other people can't and hence that makes us saintly...

However there are videos like the Balance series that do something a bit more original, as is Tom Laws forthcoming A5. But generally it's about structure. I find random shots of kayaking set to music often just as unoriginal and vacuous. Not always (I love Andy Waddingtons vids) but a lot of the time.

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Surely it is never about the need for videos. What a strange comment. YouTube is chock full of stuff which is not needed, funny cat videos to name but one ‘genre’. Indeed, this whole forum is full of stuff which is not ‘needed’.

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The need was not to do with why put up a video but why include something saying why you do the things you do and what it is you do when everyone watching doesn't need to be told, when they probably already know.Whats the need to share the reason vocally when we know the answer or like you say why does there even have to be a reason, if it's good, the footage should say it all, why the need to do this when the answer is staring you in the face. Sorry it's just what I'm thinking. Why do I need telling by some bloke why we do a sport, what he says doesn't add anything to the video.
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nick 16 wrote:The need was not to do with why put up a video but why include something saying why you do the things you do and what it is you do when everyone watching doesn't need to be told...
Possibly trying to make the video appeal to a wider audience - to have some story/meaning to it instead of the usual forgettable kayak p0rn. Admittedly, I’m not a big fan of the philosophical nonsense, but in terms of making a film that’s different I can see some merit in it.
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I enjoyed it all even the spiel about why he kayaks. I've been boating nearly 30 years now but for the last 5 years I've been dragged around the slalom scene and most the kids there paddle for competition and don't see the point in boating without gates. It's also nice to be reminded why I first started boating, because I was beginning to forget. So if not for any other reason. I enjoyed it.


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Sick video, sick guy and sick paddling ... would much rather listen to something positive being said about paddling than read negative comments on an internet forum ... Happy paddling!

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Blimey, there's some grumpiness around today!

I thought that this was a great fun watch.

I really liked the slow motion stuff too

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Awesome colour coordination!

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Awesome colour coordination!
Yep. No Palm Harlequins to be seen here!
Blimey, there's some grumpiness around today!
Indeed. I usually avoid freestyle videos as I find it a bit like watching someone falling off a bike on purpose in a stylish way repeatedly while at the same time respecting their skill, even if to a lay person it looks like they are constantly having difficulty! Me, I can capsize with style, but getting back up is the problem. I can't seem to master that chestnut.
Possibly trying to make the video appeal to a wider audience - to have some story/meaning to it instead of the usual forgettable kayak p0rn.
Precisely. Like I said earlier, the usual kayak porn set to music is just as vacuous. There isn't a whole lot to say about kayaking itself though, and like you I switch off when the philosophical stuff makes an appearance. For all the criticisms of him, Steve Fisher is at least trying to inject some content into things and change the focus to the rivers and places, as well as the challenge. A lot of the stuff around is just too serious though. The voice over for the Forge videos is already sounding like Apocolypse Now. Kayak or fight!

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