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Re: Dart Levels - Now with added Twitter!

Post by ChrisL » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:54 pm

Is anyone interested in paddling the loop/upper Dart late afternoon sometime this week? If so then drop me an email. I'm working in Ashburton and can be at Newbridge for 4.15.
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Post by Mark Allen » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:39 pm

2-3 inches below this arvo.

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Post by Denys » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:48 am

Any ideas what's happened to the webcam? It doesn't seem to have worked for the last week or so.

Which ties in nicely with my next question . . .

What's the level at the mo? Going by the EA gauges, I'm guessing it's still between -2 & -3 IELS (2-3 inches below the Ledge).

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Post by buck197 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:17 pm

At 1430 it was four inches below the slab. Warm and balmy conditions sunshine and almost shorty weather.
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Post by Mark Allen » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:03 pm

Slab covered at 0900am

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Re: Dart Levels - Now with added Twitter!

Post by Mark Allen » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:46 am

I find this gauge best for levels on the Upper and Loop

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/ho ... ionId=3212

About 0.50 - 0.55 is just lapping

Top of the typical range is ledge 1/2 - 3/4 covered

About 1.00 is flowing through 3rd arch

About 1.20 + is going up the steps

0.65 - 0.75 is most people favourite levels.


It takes about 1.5hrs from the position of the gauge for the water to reach Newbridge.

Hope this helps...

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Re: Dart Levels - Now with added Twitter!

Post by dan westaway » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:29 pm

I would agree with that. It was spot on medium yesterday which was about a ft over the ledge/water running over the top of the slab.
It was bob on the top of the typical range, but obviously a couple of hours to let the water flow down to newbridge, and the gauge doesn't refresh too quickly.

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Post by jmmoxon » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:25 pm

Good to see so many people out on the river today, but also that the local Mandarin ducks have survived the last two cold winters (hadn't seen them in last 18 months)

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Post by Mark Allen » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:30 pm

What was the level today Mike?

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Post by jmmoxon » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:05 pm

Just below...

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Re: Dart Levels - Now with added Twitter!

Post by DanJ » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:31 pm

So the weir at Buckfastleigh Abbey. Do I add my understanding of it as another thing I am wrong about?

I understand the situation to be not to paddle over the weir becasue:
1) there are plenty of spikey things to spear yourself on.
2) the salmon steps are undercut
3) the monks do not like the idea and could bring down alsorts of nastiness from above
4) if you feel the need ot paddle over the weir for fun and excitment you are on the wrong bit of river

I welcome comments from folks who know more than me....

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Post by Simon Westgarth » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:25 am

DanJ wrote:So the weir at Buckfastleigh Abbey. Do I add my understanding of it as another thing I am wrong about?

I understand the situation to be not to paddle over the weir becasue:
1) there are plenty of spikey things to spear yourself on.
On the main weir face, there is some metal work, so only run at reasonable flows.
DanJ wrote:2) the salmon steps are undercut
The salmon steps appear not to be that undercut and are straight forward to run.
DanJ wrote:3) the monks do not like the idea and could bring down alsorts of nastiness from above
The Monks rather the weir was not run, as they are aware of the exposed metal work and do not wish any mishap to befall a paddler running the weir.
DanJ wrote:4) if you feel the need ot paddle over the weir for fun and excitment you are on the wrong bit of river
In low to normal levels, the steps are generally run, and in medium to higher flows the main weir face can be run. In high water, the steps are a challenge, as a series of boils make for some difficulty to make the line, and in low water, the main weir face has numerous exposed metal, and could easily damage your boat.

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Post by Simon.T » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:42 am

EA levels say the river was at 0.41m at 9am today so going by the above posts that's about 9-14cm/3.5-5.5 inches below the slab with a full day and night to drop even more. What is the lowest level the loop can be realistically run without wheels?
I may have to substitute my boat for a kite this weekend.

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Post by jam bo » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:41 am

its about 6" below the slab and towards the levels that its not much fun unless your desperate...

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Post by Dave Thomas » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:20 pm

Well - not much rain forecast before the weekend! Is there any prospect that the Upper Dart will be runnable on Sunday - I don't mean an epic 'fun' level as some would define it, and I know the beginning and end will be 'bump and scrape' - or even walk - but will the main section go at all, or is it just too dry now?

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Post by jemma » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:25 pm

Im looking to take a couple of novices on the lower this weekend, there isnt much rain due, will the levels be ok? If not does any one have any suggestions of where else in the south west or south wales area I could take them? One is in kayak, one on canoe so preferably something friendly for both about grade 2 with not too many weirs.
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Post by jam bo » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:30 pm

Dart is really really low. The weir just below buckfastleigh is nearly dry other than the fish steps.

Its so dry they have been burning gorse all week. A bit of drizzle early today but nothing significant.

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Post by jemma » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:34 pm

Oh bugger...
Any suggestioms for an alternative??

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Re: Dart Levels - Now with added Twitter!

Post by Jon_Brown » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:19 am

Metoffice Invent is suggesting some overnight rain mainly crossing between 00:00 and 03:00. With one patch up to 8-16mm/hour and larger areas of 2-4mm followed by drizzle. Hopefully it’ll hang around a little longer so we can get a final run before we are joined on the rivers by our fishy friends.

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Re: Dart Levels - Now with added Twitter!

Post by buck197 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:20 pm

Its a foot below the slab despite 9mm of rain this morning.
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The Upper Dart...

Post by waterbourne » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:22 pm

Can anyone tell me what the water level is like in the upper Dart today?

Im thinking of paddling it tomorrow but the rain has been so localized, I dont know how much rain has fallen in that area..

I dont want to travel all that way if its not paddle-able.....

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Re: The Upper Dart...

Post by heather.rock » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:31 pm

Urm I thought access to the Dart was technically 'closed' to paddlers now it's the fishing season is open.. or is that only the Dart loop and not the upper?

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Re: The Upper Dart...

Post by waterbourne » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:40 pm

Yes but is it paddle-able right now ?

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Post by Timhillwycc » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:41 pm

I should imagine very low, it has been approaching summer levels over the last few weeks. it will need alot of rain to keep it up for more than a few hours.
bring on the april showers :)

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Re: The Upper Dart...

Post by jam bo » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:24 pm

waterbourne wrote:Yes but is it paddle-able right now ?
No.

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Post by jmmoxon » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:56 am

http://dartcom.co.uk/weather/index.php

Needs about 20mm to get a good flow going...

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Post by morsey » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:45 am

heather.rock wrote:Urm I thought access to the Dart was technically 'closed' to paddlers now it's the fishing season is open.. or is that only the Dart loop and not the upper?
100% Incorrect. There is no legal way to open or close the river for canoeing. There is no agreement with the fisheries and canoeists because it did not meet requirements for canoeists and was rejected by BCU/CE, there is a list of requests from the fisheries but they have no legal right to control navigation. So as has been happening for the past twenty five years, when the rain comes at any time of the year and the river is in condition to go paddling, go paddling.

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Post by Mark Allen » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:36 pm

Bottom of the steps this arvo...

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Post by jmmoxon » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:33 pm

Bit of a peak (West Dart gauge):

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Re: Dart Levels - Now with added Twitter!

Post by jam bo » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:23 am

Still on the slab at 7.30am this morning.

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