River East Lyn - Watersmeet to the Sea

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by morsey » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:29 am

Is there an ambiguous meaning hidden in that post Pete? I read it as you checked the level and then paddled the upper section and the level had dropped when you arrived at Watersmeet. Is that a correct interpretation or did you mean you checked the level online and then when you arrived at Watersmeet the level had dropped and you paddled the lower section only? The reason to check is if there are no significant tree hazards does that mean that the tree in long pool has gone?

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by storm » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:36 pm

Tree still there as far im aware Morsey.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by morsey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:43 pm

Thanks Storm, shame about being kicked out of X factor! ;-)

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by jmmoxon » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:54 pm

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by hardy » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:48 am

Two of us ran it yesterday,me for the first time.It was on 2 or thereabouts.Apart from one individual challenging us at the village hall at Brendon,everyone else was very friendly.I can see why some people may want to selfishly keep it for themselves.

Anyway,for those like me who want info' on levels:2 is great for Brendon to Watersmeet,but a bit too demanding for a first timer running the gorge.(If we had had the time to look at the drops i may have done better!).The paddle out was excellent as well.

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:34 pm

After all the rain, and heavy showers today, the Lyn was rather sleepy, only .5 on the gauge. Nice run though, and should hold enough water for the weekend. Was rising a bit as we left.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:43 pm

The Property Manager of National Trust on Exmoor, who has been supportive to us, writes:

'it has come to our notice that canoeists are accessing the Hoar Oak waterfalls by leaving the designated path above them to get to the top of the falls. This is creating desire line paths and damage to vegetation which we cannot support and there is no supported canoeing access at this point anyway. Can you please help us by asking paddlers through your forums not to access the river at this point.'

This for your information.
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Post by morsey » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:34 am

What was your response Pete?

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:10 pm

I haven't responded directly to this, just passed it on as requested. I have previously made the point that other users of the Hoaroke don't appear to have been banned. i.e. summer swimmers in the pools, angling, although it's all National Trust. Fishing rights are owned by someone else, though I can't imagine any fish getting up there. I have made the point that there are only a few hair boaters who run it in spate and it's only runnable then. People need to avoid crashing about in the undergrowth as it raises tensions.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:39 am

The webcam is still displaying but the dates are all wrong so the picture won't represent what is happening. It's been reported and I will see the Ranger on Wednesday.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:32 pm

For up to date levels on this and other rivers you can look at http://www.peakfreak.co.uk/kayaking/rpdstart.asp

Please note the broken wooden bridge (Lyn Bridge) below Myrtleberry House is being replaced from 31 October for three weeks. There will be scaffolding and cranes but the river can be passed down with care. The workmen may stop you temporarily if things are swinging about but it should be clear most of the time.

Also note, there will be work on the Watersmeet to Lynmouth road between 16 Jan and 3 Feb, involving closure of the road. They are stabilizing loose rock with the possibility of a stray rock rolling down into the river.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:27 pm

The National Trust Warden now advises:
'The work has started to replace Lynrock bridge at long last. It would be wise to
avoid going near it as the old bridge is very unstable and may need a temporary
prop from the river bed in mid stream. I have closed the footpath with fencing,
a diversion and signage but this hasn't stopped walkers ignoring all this and
trying to scramble over the scaffolding. Please can you advise it is advisable to get out and go around for the time being please,
at the very least alert the contractors to your presence and follow advice they
give before passing.'
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by Conrad Dowding » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:39 am

River East Lyn
Paddled 6/11/11
1.45 on the Brendon gauge equals exactly 0 on the Watersmeet webcam gauge (Border of red/green)
A bit of a scrape either side of the island in Lynmouth.

Watersmeet to Lynmouth. Low level but still good fun; some messy lines due to exposed rock.

It's worth noting that when the water's clear the Watersmeet webcam underestimates the water level- it looked like there was 2" of red exposed on the gauge but this wasn't the case when we got there.

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Post by jmmoxon » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:25 am

Of course these gauges take no account of water coming down the Hoaroak...

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by storm » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:23 pm

Paddled today,the scaffolding was going up for the damaged wooden bridge replacement,caused no problem.We also cleared wood obstructions below bridge work.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:59 pm

Message today from the National Trust Warden:

'From tomorrow the 10 November we will be removing the old bridge at Lyn Rock and installing a new one. This will involve men working with power tools and heavy lifting equipment on the scaffold at Lyn Rock. Please can you warn canoeists that they should approach with extreme caution and await instruction before passing, we will endeavour to minimise any hold-ups however some of the work is hazardous and there is the possibility of materials falling into the river.'
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:05 pm

jmmoxon wrote:Of course these gauges take no account of water coming down the Hoaroak...

Mike
The flows from each river are generally similar in proportion so the gauge is usually accurate. There are occasions when more flow comes down the Hoaroke (or less) so it's sometimes misleading to a minor extent. The gauge is on that footbridge above the Hoaroke simply because there wasn't enough money to trench in a cable to the stone bridge lower down.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:38 pm

pete thorn wrote:Message today from the National Trust Warden:

'From tomorrow the 10 November we will be removing the old bridge at Lyn Rock and installing a new one. This will involve men working with power tools and heavy lifting equipment on the scaffold at Lyn Rock. Please can you warn canoeists that they should approach with extreme caution and await instruction before passing, we will endeavour to minimise any hold-ups however some of the work is hazardous and there is the possibility of materials falling into the river.'
The old bridge has gone and the new one is in place. Just a lot of scaffolding to be removed, so passable with care.
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East Lyn (Watersmeet to Sea) Video

Post by arrowfish2 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:38 pm

Myself and a couple of others recently paddled the East Lyn, as a warm up for an up and coming paddle trip to Scotland to support the youth arm of Actionaid. Here's a quick edit of our Lyn decent if anyone's interested.



Cheers to anyone who watches! We're trying to drum up some excitement for our Scotland trip, as raising awareness for charity only works when someone takes notice!

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In depth GoPro vid of the East Lyn

Post by Jody D » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:12 pm

This was filmed using GoPro Hero cam. The gauge @ Watersmeet read just above 1. Great friendly level.



Enjoy!

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by pete thorn » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:08 am

I am getting flak from the National Trust and local interests that people are paddling the river when the gauge is well into the red. This gives concerns for the welfare of salmon redds, various lichens and other flora and fauna. Some people, challenged about the level, agreed it was too low but paddled anyway. Come on folk, be reasonable about the levels, as most people agree the gauge is set right. It's a bump and scrape when in the red, so you risk your boat as well as the environment. Find something else to do. The rock-hopping on the north coast, just near Lynmouth, was awesome this weekend.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by Paul Smith » Sat May 05, 2012 7:01 pm

Paddled today, with the gauge showing well into the Green. Got grief from a fisherman at the end of the gorge. Police will be being informed, as we were threatened with having stones thrown at us, he then cast at us, saying that if one of us got caught it would be our own fault. in the end we ignored him and he stormed off. I will post a picture of said individual later and will be contacting the local fishing club.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by SimonMW » Wed May 16, 2012 12:49 pm

saying that if one of us got caught it would be our own fault.
Somehow I think the local plod might take a different view, especially if he caused an injury as a result...

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by hardy » Thu May 17, 2012 5:31 pm

That fisherman must have only just got there,because we were half an hour ahead of your group,and only saw the "nice" people,waving and greeting.Shame really.

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Watersmeet to the Sea)

Post by jmmoxon » Wed May 30, 2012 12:33 am

Apparently the National Trust expect canoeists and fishermen to share the river during March:

http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/things- ... 53/284884/

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Re: River East Lyn - Watersmeet to the Sea

Post by hardy » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:50 pm

Last night the river looked quite full,so a bunch of us headed down this morning.Before we went we looked at the stop / go Watersmeet webcam,it still seemed to be green.Rainchasers said "empty".My mate looked at other EA info' and it seemed worth the drive.

We checked the Watersmeet gauge on the shuttle to Brendon,and decided not to drive further up,because the water level on the gauge was only just green.

We were taking a first timer to the Lyn,and i wanted to point out the Hoaroak slides to him.As i appraoched the bridge across the river,from which to view them,i saw 3 fishermen talking there.One of them bustled around the other 2 and started shouting that we were "out of season".He also said "you're not paddling that river,or that one",i did not see where he pointed,but i took him to mean the Hoaroak and Upper East Lyn."You are right,i am not paddling those rivers.Now if you will excuse me...",i tried to walk across the bridge,thinking my group were behind,but they were already along another path.I was about to point out the drops to my friend.The fisherman stepped in my path and barged me to one side,(not heavily,but enough) and told me "Fuck off!"For once i just turned back and saw my group about to get on just downstream,so i casually walked to where they were,waited for them to get on,then got on last.

Everyone else were all smiles.Kids waving,adults disbelieving and snapping pictures,as they do.We were smiling to.

We ran the section very quickly,without incident,the first timer doing the gorge drops on our say so.He did very well.

At the pool after crux 2 there was a fisherman 15m downstream.As we were all collecting in the eddy after the drop,i realised he was approaching us.He started shouting,and waving a notebook,i think it was.He said "I've got you"!Also told me to "Come here and get out your boat",i tried ignoring him,as he was obviously hostile,but eventually i said "I can see no point in communicating with you",which he probably did not hear anyway.His parting shot was "I watched all of you,and i saw what you did".If i was quicker i should have retorted "Ye',good wasn't it".

We paddled to the car park,did the shuttle,and had no other problem.

I am not asking for peoples' views on what we did.Some will say it was to low,and indeed,if we knew how low it was we would not have endured the drive.It was good for our new man,bit of fun for us to,and i did enjoy pissing of the 2 fishermen.We were polite,and if i was not toting a boat and kitted up,with other innocent members of the public around,my usual response to a barge would be to whack the bloke and throw him in the river.I have signed no agreements,am not in the BCU,used my concience,and believe i did no wrong.No one will ever convince me i did.This is written here as a record of an incident.

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Re: River East Lyn - Watersmeet to the Sea

Post by Simon Westgarth » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:46 pm

Thank you Hardy, an insight in to what sharing the river means to some others.

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Re: River East Lyn - Watersmeet to the Sea

Post by Chas C » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:55 am

I'd paddled it with two others the weekend before Hardy's group, from Watersmeet.

The level was into the green by maybe 2cm.

We never met any fisherman.

Whilst we were on the river in the first eddy collecting our thoughts, one of our group was approached by a young lady who had run down from the cafe at Watersmeet waving a letter saying we were breaking an agreement, he stated that the river was high enough to paddle (quoting the gauge), she said that agreement to paddle by the gauge expired in Oct 2011 and were were breaking the law by paddling out of season. She was told that we had not interpreted it that way and we paddled onwards.

Again not wishing to debate the issue but just record it.

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Re: River East Lyn - Watersmeet to the Sea

Post by Mark R » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:25 pm

Last weekend - passed various anglers, none passed comment, one even returned a polite wave.
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East Lyn

Post by storm » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:02 pm

Hi Folks big tree down on the s bend section above watersmeet which could cause problems in higher flows,worthy of inspection.
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