River East Lyn - Brendon to Watersmeet

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River East Lyn - Brendon to Watersmeet

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by pete thorn » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:57 pm

See the section River East Lyn, Watersmeet to Lynmouth, for updates on access.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by pete thorn » Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:18 am

Received the email below recently, which made my day:

Date: 10 Aug 2009 09:51
Subject: Msg for Pete Thorn
To: bidefordcanoeclub@googlemail.com
CC:
Hi Pete,
We stumbled across the discussions concerning the use of the
East Lyn River for canoeing on the following website:
http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/foru ... 0&p=401542
which we can see you’ve been an active participant in.
We live on the East Lyn river in Rockford (Doone Cottage –
we moved there about 18 months ago) and own the left bank from Carpenters down
to the foot bridge and again from the ford, past our house, down to Ash Pool.

We just wanted to let you know that we have quite a
different position on this and don’t have any objection to canoeists and
kayakers using the river as long as it’s treated with respect. As keen
outdoor sports people ourselves our position is that as long as everyone treats
the river and the surrounding areas with the respect which it deserves and actively
ensures that no damage is caused to the river and the banks then it’s a
great natural resource for all to enjoy.
Canoeists support local businesses with their custom and we
don’t see how, as long as canoeists paddle in high water (& let’s
be honest it looks like a miserable day out when the river is low and you get
to bump and scrape your way down to Lynmouth!), they do any more damage than
fisherman clambering about the banks and people letting their dogs off the lead
to spend hours chasing the ducks.
I’m not sure if any of this is helpful, but just
wanted to state our position and ensure you knew that our views are quite
different from the ‘official’ response. Please let us know if there’s
anything you need from us & always happy to see folks having a good time
canoeing past our patio, please do give us a wave!


Best Wishes,

Carole & Jason
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by swim4it » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:20 pm

Nice one pete,step in the right direction.

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by Mark Allen » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:10 pm

There are loads of trees in this section at the moment.

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by pete thorn » Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:17 pm

I have photographed the trees and sent to the national Trust, which is the riparian owner. They seem reluctant to do anything, though the trees are clearly flood hazards. Will keep up the pressure. At the moment, no paddling is allowed by them as it is not the agreed season (1 Oct to 31 March) and the EIA has not been completed yet by Natural England. Am in touch with the NE Assessor who seems interested and reasonable, though we wait to see what conclusions he reaches. Am feeding him information about canoeing on the river, as far as I have it.
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Post by jmmoxon » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:33 pm

Exmoor Local Access Forum have published this http://www.exmoor-nationalpark.gov.uk/a ... tem_15.pdf
METHODS TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF CANOEING ON SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTS WITHIN EXMOOR NATIONAL PARK
The Forum noted the recent amendments to the Guidance on Local Access Forums in England which stated that Forums should not advise on access over or in water or on recreation activities involving access over or in water. However the Forum continued to have a role to play in relation to access to land for the purposes of entering water, and it was understood that the Forum could continue to give advice on access over or in water with the caveat that such advice was not within the statutory functions of the Forum.
With regard to canoeing on the East Lyn, the Access & Recreation Manager reported on a recent meeting attended by representatives of the National Park Authority, Environment Agency, Canoe England, Natural England, National Trust and East Lyn Riparian Owners Association. As fishing and canoeing were both popular activities when the river was in spate, and because of the very narrow nature of the East Lyn, shared access by these different interest groups was difficult to achieve and seasonal separation seemed the most sensible compromise. The National Trust had decided to pursue a winter only, height-based access arrangement from Watersmeet to Lynmouth and there was also potential for a winter-only access agreement upriver from Watersmeet, where currently no access agreement was in place. However Canoe England was unable to support winter-only access agreements, as it considered these contrary to the advice provided by the Environment Agency. The Authority was therefore continuing with its policy to provide technical conservation and recreation management advice and to act as an honest broker in the development of access agreements/arrangements, and would also work with riparian owners and others to monitor canoeing activity and key wildlife populations.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by storm » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:49 pm

East Lyn primo level today,new tree in Long Pool drop its big and right on the line going to be difficult to remove.Definatly inspect.No other hazards noted.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by justin-g » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:31 pm

How's the level holding on the Lyn?

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Post by jmmoxon » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:22 pm

Holding well today, plenty of water running across roads on Exmoor & no frost. There are lots of trees down in & alongside the river that will cause problems when we get another big flow. There is a tree right across not far above the double drop (can be passed with care) & the tree (mentioned above) in that drop is totally blocking the left hand (main) line, it looks like it will be there for quite some time & may not be visible from above at high water.

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Post by morsey » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:40 am

Just watched a video on facebook and it appears there is a tree wedged in the main double drop on this section. Medium levels you can sneak it running into the pit on river right. Higher levels and grind down the tree option might look like the fantasy line of choice!

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by morsey » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:06 pm

Tree is still wedged in the double drop. The other tree is currently still giving a sneak line around it.
Level should hold for a good few days yet.

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by Laurence Mezo » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:45 pm

Are both sections of the Lyn likly to be running this weekend?
Sorry if its a stupid question ive never done the river before.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by morsey » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:42 pm

I would guess yes. Check the level yourself when you are there, the gorge will hold for certain.

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by Simon Westgarth » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:55 pm

The levels were great yesterday, and the gorge had good flows, conditions from Brendon were also good

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by storm » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:34 pm

Paddled today ok but dropping fast,can see no good reason to do top section.
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Post by Ollieswims! » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:32 am

Storm, Any predictions on whether it will go next weekend?

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by morsey » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:17 pm

storm wrote:Paddled today ok but dropping fast,can see no good reason to do top section.
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Storm did you just paddle from Watersmeet then? We paddled the section from Brendon to Lynmouth yesterday as well and could see every reason why you would want to paddle that section. It is a very enjoyable section of river and seeing as though there were still clear channels the whole way down, no reason that I could see to avoid it.

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Post by storm » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:49 pm

Hi Morsey probably just been a bit spoilt lately with good levels for top section,no other reason,watersmeet section still ok today,will probably go till monday.Ollie not looking good for next weekend mate.
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Post by morsey » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:17 pm

Ah I see, and agree that when it is full the upper section is class. Nice to have it flowing high recently. :-)

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by Ollieswims! » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:01 pm

Might have to go with a low water run then Steve... Im not going another week without boating! I'll scrape down it :)

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Post by jmmoxon » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:27 pm

You'll be able to paddle from Watersmeet to Lynmouth (unless it freezes), but Brendon section will require walking by next weekend without rain.

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by Ollieswims! » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:23 pm

What do you think about hoaroak a week tomorrow mike? Do you think the last drop will go? I just bought a full face lid so ide have it in time for the hoaroak and lakes.

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Post by Mark Allen » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:39 pm

Ollieswims! wrote:What do you think about hoaroak a week tomorrow mike? Do you think the last drop will go? I just bought a full face lid so ide have it in time for the hoaroak and lakes.
With no more rain The Horeoak will be too low.

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Post by Ollieswims! » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:43 pm

PRAY FOR RAIN! I've been waiting for that day for weeks...

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Post by jmmoxon » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:42 pm

I've only seen elbows & spraydecks damaged by the last drop on the Hoaroak...

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by Ollieswims! » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:20 pm

Elbow pads are the way forward then- At least you haven't seen any boats broken :)

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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by pete thorn » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:59 pm

Just to point out, National Trust don't approve of paddling on the Hoaroke, as it is apparently an otter haven. You may get challenged on environmental grounds if one of the wardens is around.
The river only runs in semi spate conditions and is a serious sequence of steep drops.
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Re: RIVER EAST LYN (Brendon to Watersmeet)

Post by Ollieswims! » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:34 pm

Ok thanks for the warning Pete. If there's wardens around i doubt we'll do it. If we do, we'll be discreet.
A serious sequence of steep drops is what we aim for :)

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