River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Re: Holne Weir...Fence in River

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A paddler died in high water some years back, just below Holne Bridge, due to getting tangled in something similar to this.
Definitely potentially dangerous.

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Re: Holne Weir...Fence in River

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Terryg wrote:A paddler died in high water some years back, just below Holne Bridge, due to getting tangled in something similar to this.
Definitely potentially dangerous.
Indeed, a memorial is still attached to the tree, see middle right on this shot:

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The farmer should be informed that come late Summer floods the fence needs to be removed, if to avoid a similar incident that lead to the death of the young paddler 7 years back or so.

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New Dartcam

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Hi all the new dartcam is now up and running, now all we need is some rain!

Check out here - http://www.paddle-the-dart.co.uk/dart-cam/dart-cam.htm

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RAIN PLEASE!!!!!
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Dart Loop - Tree down @ spin dryer

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As above, an upside down tree in the spin dryer, keep river left to avoid the spin dryer completely!

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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My understanding is that the BCU owns some land on the river left bank just below Holne weir. I thought that this was the field with a gate to the road at the end of the woods that stretch between Holne Bridge and Holne Weir. I noticed yesterday that this gate was locked and topped with loops of barbed wire. Does the BCU own this field, or have I got the wrong spot?

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Alex

You have got the wrong spot. Get off just before the weir and exit through a gap in the wall. The locked gate bit is not BCU owned.
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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Hi John

Thanks for that.

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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A rather large tree is down the bank and in the eddy river right at spin dryer, it looks like it may fall further in the eddy. Be advised that the branches are acting like a sieve in the recirculating flow. Keep left till it shifts.
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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Tree in the spindryer is going to be quite a major hazard to groupes with paddlers who are not overly capable.
As of 11/10/12 the tree is still in there so go Left like Buck197 said previously

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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I understand that we are only ment to paddle at weekends but what is the reason for this? It is not fishing season and there is no evidence that kayaking will disturb the salmon run. As long as we paddle when the river is above a certain level as to not damage the salmon redds. What is the problem with a midweek paddle.

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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the_loz wrote:I understand that we are only ment to paddle at weekends but what is the reason for this? It is not fishing season and there is no evidence that kayaking will disturb the salmon run. As long as we paddle when the river is above a certain level as to not damage the salmon redds. What is the problem with a midweek paddle.
You can paddle when ever you like on the close fishing season, and with due consideration of other river users during the fishing season. There is no access agreement on the Dart, just a difference of opinion when to paddle.

Your above statement is sourced from where? Note there are no salmon redds on any regularly paddled sections on the River Dart including the loop, they are on the upper reaches of the East & West Dart and on the smaller side creeks such as Cherry Brook, Black Brook & the Swancombe.

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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What is the current best Get off for the loop?What is the best Get off for the section from Holme bridge to buckfastleigh?Cheers Pete

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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For the loop we tend to paddle past Holne Bridge, and get off just before the next weir. Park in the layby river left.

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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A per a posting on kayaking the River Dart FB page, please note the River Dart Country Park has asked paddlers egressing at their premises to not park cars at/near the bridge as this causes access issues to other users of the park. They ask for paddlers to walk their boats to the main car park. Thanks.Jules

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Holne Weir changes

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Paddled the Loop today (26/12/13) and Holne Weir has changed. The river left side has collapsed and is now more of a long ramp. I could see some metalwork sticking up from the debris.

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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If I wanted to paddle the Dart loop in May, and there is enough water, is there anything access-wise to prevent me? Anything (any one?) to watch out for?
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Wadhamite wrote:If I wanted to paddle the Dart loop in May, and there is enough water, is there anything access-wise to prevent me? Anything (any one?) to watch out for?
If its lapping the slab or above then you are good to go.

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jam bo wrote:If its lapping the slab or above then you are good to go.
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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Wadhamite wrote:
jam bo wrote:If its lapping the slab or above then you are good to go.
Thank you!

Be aware, there are some local landowners and fishermen who may not fully agree with this sentiment...

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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No traditional access problems on Thursday, but one slight issue - someone had crahsed their car into the Newbridge and knocked a hole through it, dumping masonry in the river! The workmen were in the river in dry suits pulling the masonry out, and were very nice about letting us carry our boats across, but it meant an enforced park on the wrong, no parking, side of the bridge.

We had a great paddle after that - 0.57 on the rainchasers guage, three swims between the two beginners and one roll from me. The Captain, smug beggar, stayed dry (or as dry as you can get in torrential rain).

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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The weir below Holne Bridge was damaged in floods last winter, as you know, but things are better now. Mark Simpson of River Dart Country Park, has rebuilt it completely. The SW Regional Development Team for Canoe England have worked closely with him with the aim of getting a canoe pass put in to what was a dangerous weir. It's now runnable right of centre and through a slot left of centre. There is no water at present so we will have to see how it works when the rains come again. There could be a play wave? We were able to get £2000 from the Flood Relief Fund towards the cost which has cemented our relationship with Mark.

Note the land owned by CE on river left near the weir is soon to get attention from a tree surgeon. There is a lot of dead wood in the trees which will be cut out. There are also unstable trees hanging over the road. Be wary in conditions of high wind. The work should take place during October and no access will be available to paddlers while the team are working.
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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Dates for tree work now pencilled in, subject to high winds or floods, for the week of 24 November, Monday to Friday.
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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Tree work held up by requirements for a planning application so work will happen some time in the New Year.
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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Planning to get all the steel work removed, which can be a hazard in spate. Tree work partly completed a will all be done soon. Looking at getting a simple landing point installed above the weir, as bank erosion is getting worse.
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Tree work completed now. Main gate replaced and old steel work removed from the site. There is a continuing problem of paddlers parking across the gate in the 'layby' and some trying to cross the field directly to this gate topped with barbed wire. Please don't as it annoys the normally friendly landowner. Undergrowth has been cleared so it's now easier to land below the weir nearer the exit from the BCU land. Advisory notices will follow so please don't trash them as we paid for them.
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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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We at the Environment Agency are dealing with a serious outbreak of disease among migratory fish on many rivers in Devon including the River Dart. The Dart fishery has been in decline in recent years and this year a significant disease outbreak is estimated to have killed the majority of Salmon and Sea Trout that have entered the river so far.

We are asking for the assistance of all water users, including fishermen, dog walkers etc. to help the river recover. For canoeists this would include careful entry into and egress from rivers, paddling in good flows only and avoiding contact with river beds wherever possible. We also encourage canoeists to only paddle where there are agreed access arrangements in place.

We are currently trying to establish the extent and cause of the disease affecting rivers across Devon and Cornwall. Until we understand more and are able to implement any suitable measures, our only option to limit the impact of this disease is to protect the surviving salmon and sea trout and their spawn sites. Fish will potentially start to spwan from late September and eggs remain in gravels until around April, so this is a particularly sensitive period.

Thanks for your understanding and co-opertaion on this matter.

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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The Loop currently has more trees in it than the Upper! Take care, especially at levels where your group may struggle.

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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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Loop Sketch Map
A Sketch Map of the Loop is now available to download from my website, as with the Upper Dart Map it matches the rapids & features to grid references enabling your location to be established should you need to relay that info to emergency services.
Download:
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Re: River Dart - New Bridge to Holne Bridge - the 'Loop'

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We have parking problems at the Dart Land where lots of people park. This downstream from Holne Bridge by the weir. A local resident has written to me saying, 'now we have some canoeists parking large mini buses with trailers right up by the gate. Their vehicles are then sitting out considerably into the road and sometimes left there into the dusk (the trailers in particular are not so easy to see).'
Can everyone please stop parking upstream of the meadow gate as this restricts the road? If there isn't enough room then there is always RDCP. If we carry on blocking the road there will be pressure for double yellows and everyone will suffer.
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