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RIVER BRATHAY (Elterwater to Windermere)

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:02 pm
by Mark R

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:47 pm
by Jim Pullen
Greg Bartlett, RAO Cumbria, 22/01/07 wrote:A certain landowner at 'Halfway House', a series of holiday cottages at the 'muddy layby' (GR 352035) is disputing ownership of the land crossed to get on the water. He is claiming he owns the water edge and riverbed. The friends of the lake district who have proved ownership of the immediate bank are more than happy for paddlers to get on there crossing their land. The cottage owner is fed up of paddlers getting on and paddling passed his property (something he has no control over funnily enough), and is considering building a deer fence to stop paddlers (that wouldn't last long i'm sure!). I am organising a meeting between him, me, and the rightful landowners to try and reach some sort of agreement. Again, will keep all informed as to the outcome. In the meantime, it might be worth putting something in the order of: " recent numerous objections have been made about paddlers accessing the river at the old 'muddy layby' by the owner of the adjacent cottages. He is not happy with the number of paddlers using the river and plans to put a fence in place. Actual ownership of the land (river bank) and waters edge is being disputed. A meeting is being attempted to try and reach a desirable agreement. In the meantime, use the river, use the published access points and be sensible with numbers"

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:59 pm
by Jim Pullen
Greg Bartlett, RAO Cumbria, 22/02/07 wrote: An update on the access situation at the \'muddy layby\' (Half Way House). A
meeting has taken place between the land owners (friends of the lake
district), The Lake District national Park, and Greg Bartlett (the new
Access Officer for Cumbria). Complaints and disatisfaction is occuring with
greater frequency from the owner of the adjacent land Tim Coupe (Half Way
House Cottages) about the level of use of the get in, and at times the noise
and impact of large groups using the site. Tim Coupe has stated that he is
fed up of large groups getting on and causing noise (including the use of
offensive language), and is at the point where he wants to erect a fence,
effectively stopping access to the river. This is something that is
currently under dispute by us as to his authority to do this, but it is NOT
a good situation to be threatened with, and we are urgently working towards
a more mutual and friendly outcome. In the meantime, please can i ask that all users of the river do so with the utmost consideration for the land, the environment, and in
particular, the local residents. Use by large groups should be discouraged,
but if doing so, be discreet and move on from the \'pool\' promptly.

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:52 pm
by Jim Pullen
Jackie Friend, White Rose Canoe Club wrote:I went as part of a group of 6 on the Brathay on 16th Nov 08 putting on
just below Skelwith Bridge. The river was impassable at one point
(before the muddy layby put in I think from what I have read) and we had
to walk around trees and bog. Its possible we could have climbed over
tree trunks and dragged boats over but one of our group has limited
mobility following a stroke so we went the muddy way.
I'm not quite sure whether Jackie meant the river was blocked, or just very low?

Re: RIVER BRATHAY (Elterwater to Windermere)

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:27 pm
by nick 16
I was with jackie on the trip the river was blocked by trees and logs and looked like they needed work with a chainsaw. around this blockage the river is very overgrown.

Re: RIVER BRATHAY (Elterwater to Windermere)

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:07 pm
by helenh
Paddled the Brathay on Friday from NT car park (Elterwater) to Brathay pool. Had not read of any access difficulties with this route however, was faced with an ageing NT sign at the put in saying 'no water-borne craft on Elterwater lake'. It looked a well-used put in. We had checked for potential access difficulties and so decided to paddle it anyway - but make an attempt to find out what the actual situation was on return. Any ideas? Helen

PS In response to previous message: Still loads of trees etc but if follow main flow, channel is a little disguised but quite wide.

Re: RIVER BRATHAY (Elterwater to Windermere)

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:10 pm
by Rdscott
helenh the put in at the NT car park is also the take out of the great Langdale Beck, you aren't suposed to kayak on elterwater however the locals and the NT guys dont seem to mind.

Re: RIVER BRATHAY (Elterwater to Windermere)

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:42 am
by Jim Pullen
I'm trying to get hold of EA gauge calibrations for the Brathay. Any one got any ideas?