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by fishguard
Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:57 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hi Mike B As you and I are never likely to agree on this, I think we had best just respect each others different views, on the last few posting I came on to ty to compromise, and this now also looks unacceptable to you. Are your views the same views as all paddlers on this forum? is no paddler willi...
by fishguard
Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:05 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Mike B

So you are totally against compromise? and will never enter in to access agreements again?

Is that what you personally are saying, or is the view of all Paddlers?

Regards FG
by fishguard
Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:48 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hi Richa, As I have said in previous posts, Richard Harvey was the one who set this agreement up (with us), Ashley stuck with it for a year then quashed it, and it was us that was involved on the Anglers behalf, I dont know what is niggling at you, maybe if you ask I might be able to help. I think i...
by fishguard
Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:53 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hi Paddlers, Found something to back up what I have been trying to get accross to you, seems like Krikkit wars, little Joe, Dogger Dave and Colin, have withheld information from you guys. http://www.undeb.bangor.ac.uk/canoe/forum/topic.php?id=2913& Hopefully you will now realise I have not been maki...
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:11 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hi Richa, Not touched a nerve, but I am trying to make some sort of head way on here, and as soon as a bit of banter/sarcasm starts it tends to esculate, and we end back at square one, not that it isnt good fun, but its just such a sensitive topic with tensions running high it doesnt take much. On y...
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:36 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Andya,

Thank you and by the way your last posting on litter, was a classic!

Regsrds FG
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:10 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Richa, I am not on here for your entertainment, the steps we took last year were against paddlers in low water conditions and over Spawning grounds, the lads (as you know from previous posts) were from Bangor uni, as I am sure you are in contact with them (Dogger Dave and Co) can you ask them if the...
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:32 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Richa or any other paddlers - how much hassle have you had on the Llugwy or Conwy (below Conwy Falls to Llawr ynys Farm) off Anglers? We have shared the waters long before you even thought about a change in the law. There are no definate endings to the outcome of the petitions commitee, so to state ...
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:55 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hi all, I think we all know both sides have had their rants, Richa I am trying to compromise (not back down), dont know what the other side will think, but have asked the questions, and are awaiting the answers, I am not talking about the whole of Wales, but if we can show them it works locally and ...
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:13 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: Conwy valley fisheries - canoeing-issues-allegations
Replies: 7
Views: 1001

Re: Conwy valley fisheries - canoeing-issues-allegations

Simon,

I think you missed the point, it wasnt the farmer that had to pay the costs.

And there was no mention of punches thrown.

Regards FG
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:00 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hi Neil,

This water level would be agreed firstly be E.A then by ourselves (if possible)

Once in place we would not tamper with it.

I have put the question to the CVFA, about finding out acceptable heights (again if possible), and can only await their replies.

Regards FG
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:27 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Paddlers, Just had a nice cup of tea, and am still calm whilst writting this post! If the E.A , Paddlers and Conwy Valley Fisheries can work out an acceptable (water level height)that would cause minimal damage and disruption to spawning fish, and either take out and put in around sensitive areas, t...
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:17 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Mike B I do not agree, that is the whole point of my posting, if you are not willing to stay off the Spawning grounds and not disturb the Spawning Fish, then I will continue to disagree with all of you, Anglers include, the rest of the arguments are not really that relivant to myself, although I wil...
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:17 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: Conwy valley fisheries - canoeing-issues-allegations
Replies: 7
Views: 1001

Re: Conwy valley fisheries - canoeing-issues-allegations

Mike B, I think you will find it not just the fishing lobby, but the farmers, their unions,land owners and many more, just because farmers are not on internet forums such as these, does not stop them voicing their opinions through the NFU, WFU etc. What happened to the paddlers who took the old Pado...
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:08 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Simple answer James G,

Keep off the spawning grounds and do not disturb the fish whilst spawning, that is how it works with SAFFA 1975.

Regards FG
by fishguard
Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:34 am
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Mike B,

"our" can read as our own or as all of our rivers, same way as "may be" as weso tried to explain to suit his ideals.

now we have all resorted to little word games.

Like I said we are getting no where, lets just wait and see the outcome.

Regards FG
by fishguard
Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:41 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Stone weasel, debaser,shanclan,weso As no doubt you are in contact with each other via private e-mails, could you contact Dogger Dave, and ask him if he has had any recent visits and up to date information to share with all, to help enlighten us in which direction this SAFFA 1975 debate is going. An...
by fishguard
Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:58 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Might I also suggest that as your stated interest is in the river environment rather than an angler per se you might be better off calling yourself something like 'River Keeper' I know that will not make everyone take you more seriously but it might help. I hope the above can be received as friendly...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:14 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hobbley, Down fall could mean many things, and like wise you know nothing of me. You can call it harassment, go see a solicitor, Is that a Threat you are going to take CIVIL action against me? Again very mature comments "bigger Twit" and by the way whos Fish Fingers, again playground stuff Hobbley. ...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:35 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Simon,
We arent trying it, were doing it, you are on our waters with no restrictions, so whats the difference?

FG
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:14 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: Fishing litter
Replies: 138
Views: 5000

Re: Fishing litter

Hi Ian, There are no problems, they share our waters with us now, so what are they complaing about, we dont hurl abuse at paddlers on the banks,or damage their vehicles, we aknowledge them, all we are asking is to avoid the Spawning areas during Spawning Season, for someone saying they only have acc...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:59 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hobble, read your own post and you will know why I am not answering you questions, but I will say responsibility comes with maturity, and that will be your downfall.

no respone required
FG
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:50 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Thanks Chriss and Mike - That posting by Gupster was of a Farmer and nothing to do with the waters we look after below the Conwy Falls, I cant think of any abuse, assaults or vandalism incidents that have occured on the areas we lease. I think if you approach Matt Strikland E.A or Ashley Charlwood t...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:55 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Shanclan I have information, its on all my postings, I will not give names but will tell you this comes from above, you can choose to ignore legislation and the 1998 prosecutions. If SAFFA 1975 was never intended to be used adainst paddlers and the protection of spawning fish, how did the 1998 case ...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:29 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Hi Andya, Show me the reports of any Criminal damage, Abuse or assaults on the Rivers Conwy and Llugwy, if we do not share our waters, what are you doing on them daily? I am not responsible for any water other than these. As you wont be answering my posts, you will use that as an excuse not to answe...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:17 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: Fishing litter
Replies: 138
Views: 5000

Re: Fishing litter

Hi cswalker, I know this is on the wrong thread, but if we dont share our waters, how come Paddlers come down on the Llugwy and Conwy ( I cant comment on other waters) on a almost daily basis without confrontation, we accept them, but as soon as I mentioned SAFFA/Spawning seasons/beds and they cant ...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:55 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Shanclan - You and the majority of Paddlers might think of me as misguided, but as you admit, you dont have legal people on this site, we do have access to them, and not over an "internet solicitor" freebie! type in your question and we will try and answer site. And now slowly but surely a few more ...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:33 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: Fishing litter
Replies: 138
Views: 5000

Re: Fishing litter

cswalker, Spot on about the litter, but not about the rest, It is not accidental damage if paddlers have been for warned they are about to go over Spawning grounds, that is intentional. As for the rescues only being performed by Volunteers, I must have been dreaming when as a Fire fighter we assiste...
by fishguard
Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:17 pm
Forum: Whitewater and Touring
Topic: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers
Replies: 1041
Views: 40340

Re: SAFFA 1975 Act, the new reason why we cannot paddle rivers

Adrian - I am still on this forum, if you do not like what I am posting, you simply do not have to reply.

But you will!

FG