What are the best charts to buy?

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What are the best charts to buy?

Postby scottpaddlerboy » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:24 pm

Looking for some advice on the best charts to buy either Imray or Admiralty, can anyone shed any pro's and cons of both.

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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby carlos the shackle » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:53 pm

I'm seriously considering the Memory Map £50 version of the Admiralty charts & printing up as A4 and laminating them.

http://shop.memory-map.co.uk/acatalog/I ... Folio.html

I'm just not sure as to the quality of their image & how good my printer needs to be.
Can anybody shed any light on this ?
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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby ls » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:22 pm

I've been using the Memory Map Landranger series for 5+ years and did get the £50 Charts package about 3 years ago, and get on well with printing A4 with a middle of the road bubblejet printer and laminating them. The OS Maps I can print at a variety of scales, generally I like the look of and am used to the scale on the normal map so use 1:50,000 scale (or the same image can easily be printed at double size effective 1:25,000 if I feel the need and want to eat through paper or 1:100,000 if the eyes are up to it and you want to have a bigger area on your A4). The Charts I can aso print out, but find a minor niggle in that I haven't figured out a way to print them out at the same or any standard scale (a bit like the paper ones each chart is at a different scale). I've been happy with using both.

I think the charts have been repackaged / rebranded since I bought my copy, so someone who's got a more recent version may have a different experience (also I tend to paddle using OS maps 95% of the time, so have't spent that much energy in figuring out a work around). If you are going to laminate, it's worth trying lamination pouches from different manufcturers - I've found Texet from Maplin to work well, others not so well.
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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby TechnoEngineer » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:57 pm

ls wrote:I've found Texet from Maplin to work well, others not so well.

Good tip - I've used the laminating service at Staples which is £1 a shot, so if you're going to do a lot then it's certainly worth getting one of those:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Texet-LMA4-V-A4 ... 922&sr=8-1

In terms of charts I've found that Imray have all of the symbol meanings on the back of them, whereas Admiralty tend to have better current (tidal diamond) info. Buy some old ones of both varieties on ebay.
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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby Chris Bolton » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:31 am

Memory map seems a good way to buy them, if you need them. whether you need them depends on what you're planning to do. OS 1:50 000 give you all the shore features you would normally use to navigate by; I rarely use anything else. Tidal diamonds are useful, unless you have the tidal atlas, and lights are important for night paddling. Depth is largely irrelevant apart from predicting local tide and wave effects; unlike the yachts, we can usually see where it's too shallow for us.

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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby PeterG » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:58 pm

OS maps often don't cover open crossings, sometimes the old 1" or 1/2 inch Baths. do, but generally you need a chart. Lundy for instance looks ever so close on the 1:50,000! Sometimes you can continue the OS grid out into the sea far enough. I used to be an Admiralty man but now lean towards Imray, they do seem easier to read as you start to need glasses which are never to hand. In France there are editions of kayak specific coastal charts/maps of a useful size, waterproof with land and water features for popular areas like Brittany http://www.navikayak.fr/boutique/cartes/details-carte-navikayak.html. Could there be a market in this country?
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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby Yakdiver » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:36 pm

I've got Memory Map 3500 GPS with marine charts and the mapping is very good, but make sure you are getting the new 2012 charts and not the 2009.
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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby scottpaddlerboy » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:36 pm

cheers thanks for the help

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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby Jim » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:28 pm

TechnoEngineer wrote:
ls wrote:I've found Texet from Maplin to work well, others not so well.

Good tip - I've used the laminating service at Staples which is £1 a shot, so if you're going to do a lot then it's certainly worth getting one of those:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Texet-LMA4-V-A4 ... 922&sr=8-1


I have laminated some maps/charts at work, however I can also recommend the tough paper that memory map can supply, works with an inkjet and reasonably waterproof and tear proof so works well with lots of sections printed double sided in a map case. On our cross Scotland canoe trip we were referring to them frequently on the portages and the sheaf was more often stuffed damp in a pocket than put in the map case (we had snow and were wet from paddling), all sheets were dried out afterwards and as I recall are none the worse for their ordeal.

For A3 I use the expensive laminating pouches at work (ask the boss first) for A4 I bought some from Asda which work OK, do go for a heavy pouch if you want to use the map/chart more than once (which means choosing a suitable laminator). My dad used to do maps with really thin pouches but they used to crease up a lot going through the laminator (which then irons the creases flat) so there would be bits where creases hid info, and then they would crack at the folds and delaminate....
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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby Grahamd » Sat May 05, 2012 11:19 am

Does anyone use the admiralty tough charts, and if so how do you find them?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tough-Chart-1 ... 1969092774
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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby GrahamKing » Mon May 07, 2012 12:50 pm

Grahamd wrote:Does anyone use the admiralty tough charts, and if so how do you find them?


The last time I looked at these, they had no tidal stream info on them. None at all.
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Re: What are the best charts to buy?

Postby Jluc_NAVIKAYAK » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:22 pm

PeterG wrote:......... In France there are editions of kayak specific coastal charts/maps of a useful size, waterproof with land and water features for popular areas like Brittany http://www.navikayak.fr/boutique/cartes/details-carte-navikayak.html. Could there be a market in this country?


Hello Peter
Yes there is a market, a small one.

I have to translate my website in english (be forgiving for the syntax errors). If you want to paddle in Britanny or anywhere in France we have all the coast available. We can send you in UK. Actually we research dealer for UK.
http://www.navikayak.fr/en.html

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